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yfactor · Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Yorkshire

Hi pelasgos and welcome

You may be right but a year ago there were similar rumours about the 2008 event being in Athens - later proved wrong.

The 1993 Bilderberg meeting took place at the "Nafsika Astir Palace Hotel" in Vouliagmeni which is located a few miles south of Athens.

Local people familiar with the resort may be best placed to confirm if you are correct.

TonyGosling · Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:47 am Post subject:

Can we have an English translation of this article?

Greece does seem like a likely spot since Bilderbergers know the Anti-Capitalists there will ignore the conference.

Mind you there s a lot of Anti UK/US feeling in Greece (quite right if one takes look at Cyprus and other recent history).
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kevink · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:12 am Post subject:

A meeting in June in Europe of the Bilderberg Group - an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen and thinkers chaired by Mr Davignon - could also "improve understanding" on future action, in the same way it helped create the euro in the 1990s, he said.

"When we were having debates on the euro, people [at Bilderberg events] could explain why it was worth taking risks and the others, for whom the formal policy was not to believe in it, were not obliged not to listen and had to stand up and come up with real arguments."

http://euobserver.com/843/27778

So Europe in June, is it?

kevink · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:50 am Post subject:

Contact Details

Astir Palace | 40 Apollonos Str. Vouliagmeni 16671, Athens-Greece.

Tel. (30) 210.8902000 | Fax. (30) 210.8962582

Reservations department Email: reservation@astir.gr

Tel. (30) 210.8901765, 8902000 | Fax (30) 210.8962582

kevink · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:52 am Post subject:

Oops forget the link.

http://www.astir-palace.com/contactus

marektysis · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject:

Would i be right one year in advance?

Smile

Please to all people advancing this info about Vougliameni,
a copy of the paper annoucing all that.Ths is a minimum.Otherwise not to be considered.

This seems to be a disinformation campaign again.

OK this year, the agenda is saying it could be at easter 9-12/4/2009
Bilderberg is a meeting for the hypocrits richs essentially.

They are hypocrits ( as the royals, the banksters, etc..)

Marek

vicflame · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:02 am Post subject:

Yes, Marek, absolutely !

Could you please post a scan of the article published in the Greek newspaper, so we can have actual PROOF ?

If we want to be serious, we need to go with serious proofs.

Now, let's face the facts : an article in a newspaper does not always tell the truth.

It seems a bit too easy for me, somehow. What ? Finding Bilderberg without any real search, and to believe one of the prostituted mass medias (those medias that manipulate and desinform all the time) ? I think NOT !

Probably a new desinformation campaign, like Marek was saying...

We didn't hear anything from famous Bilderberg hunters, though. So, it's probably a false track destined to distract us or to have us thinking the place has already been found.

kevink · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:44 am Post subject:

Marek, Vic,

You guys are right. So far 2 conflicting pieces of press (dis)info. The first says Athens May 14 through 16. This appeared again today

http://www.grreporter.info/statiaen.php?mysid=1823&t=16&SESID=73r5app049lb54itjc9plci0k3

The second is Andrew Rettman in the EU Observer who wrote Europe in June. Rettman has not responded to an email requesting additional location and/or date.

kevink (6000 miles west in California)

Dosius · Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 2

The following article appeared in another Athens paper on 22nd March 09.
The original 2 page article in Greek can be found on the following links. The venue is at a very privately located resort in a posh suburb in Athens, it is an islet connected to the mainland and can be accessed by one road. The Hotel is called Westin Astir in Vouliagmeni. Not hard to find on Google Earth.

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/issues/2009/03/22/220309%2020.pdf
http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/issues/2009/03/22/220309%2021.pdf

vicflame · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject:

Thank you very much , kevink and Dosius ! Very Happy

Well, obviously, we have 2 conflicting informations... Confused

So it means that at least one of those must be desinformation. Twisted Evil

We just need to find out which one, now. Wink

As we can see, the scums of the elite try as hard as they might to lead us in a dead end... just as they did last year.

We'll have to be sly as foxes to find the truth.

The hunt goes on.

Vic.

vicflame · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:43 am Post subject:

If I had to judge at first sight, I would say that the Greek magazine/newspaper is a desinformation scam ! Confused

First, because it's spread all over the place from a mass media. Mass medias tend to spread propaganda and desinformation a lot, these days... Rolling Eyes

The source from the EU Observer, a more "official" source, seems to deserve more attention. Shocked

But we need to check both sources, and keep on looking.

Personally, I had the feeling the best opportunity for Bilderberg could have been between the G20 meeting and the NATO meeting.

Let's not take quick decisions, though. We need to keep looking, and to find solid proofs ! Wink

Vic.

vicflame · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:

Here's the article written by Andrew Rettman that kevink told us about... Wink

Of course, we need to CHECK the info, and to complete it, because there is no precise date, nor country or place that is given. Exclamation

Please note in the article that these totalitarian scums (the Bilderbergers) are also aware of the anti new world order feeling...

Source : http://euobserver.com/843/27778

'Jury's out' on future of Europe, EU doyen says

ANDREW RETTMAN

16.03.2009 @ 09:01 CET

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The financial crisis is likely to create fundamental changes in the EU. But the bloc is still at an early stage of formulating its response, Belgian industrialist and former EU commissioner Etienne Davignon told EUobserver.

"It's clear that the world will not be the same after September 2008," he said in an interview on 12 March, referring to events last year such as the fall of Lehman Brothers bank in the US, which first put in the public eye what has since become the global economic crisis.

"How does Europe adjust to that change is the question. There is no objective reason to say that we will fail. There is not yet a clear indication that we will succeed in that test, so the jury's out."

The 77-year old Mr Davignon is vice-chairman of Belgian energy firm Suez-Tractebel and president of Brussels-based NGO Friends of Europe. In the 1960s he worked under EU 'founding father' Paul-Henri Spaak in the Belgian foreign ministry and in the 1980s was EU commissioner for industry.

Six months into the crisis, EU governments are at the stage of studying technical measures such as greater bank regulation and galvanising political will for future change, Mr Davignon said. But it will take another 18 to 24 months before the full effects of the crunch become clear.

In the current "grey period," Mr Davignon expects the 19 March EU summit and the 2 April G20 meeting in London to generate goodwill for co-ordinated action, but not to come out with detailed agendas.

"These two meetings are going to be important because of what [the media] will say - is it a lot of jaw-jaw and everything will get worse? Or maybe it's the beginning of a realisation that the world will no longer be the same and we are going to do something about it."

A meeting in June in Europe of the Bilderberg Group - an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen and thinkers chaired by Mr Davignon - could also "improve understanding" on future action, in the same way it helped create the euro in the 1990s, he said.

"When we were having debates on the euro, people [at Bilderberg events] could explain why it was worth taking risks and the others, for whom the formal policy was not to believe in it, were not obliged not to listen and had to stand up and come up with real arguments."

Future horizons

Mr Davignon spoke in favour of international bank regulation and dismissed fears that the potential creation of eurobonds - a government bond guaranteed by all 16 eurozone countries - would increase the cost of borrowing for the other 11 EU members.

"National regulation of the financial sector has been a disaster. Ireland is a case. Iceland is a case," he said. "The fact that you are making the euro countries healthier [via eurobonds] is an element that makes the situation of the less healthy less difficult to solve."

The European Commission should relax rules on state aid and public deficits so long as it creates a clear new playbook for all EU states to follow, the Belgian businessman added. But it should not tolerate curbs on the single market as posited by French leader Nicolas Sarkozy, who in February urged French car firms not to move to the Czech Republic.

"That is totally unacceptable ...Yesterday, a French car producer was a French car producer. A German car producer was a German producer. Fiat was an Italian producer. Now they have a French origin, a German origin, an Italian origin. But they are European producers and we told them to be like this."

Mr Davignon predicted that deeper EU integration as envisaged in the Lisbon treaty will continue due to a "majority movement" that is "irresistible over a period of time," even if an individual member state opts out.

A second negative referendum in Ireland on Lisbon "would put on the agenda the notion that if somebody says No, why do we have to care about them?" he said.

Godless and confused

The Belgian aristocrat warned that rising anti-establishment feeling in Europe will complicate attempts to implement new policy. But he indicated that the phenomenon has deeper roots than the financial crisis.

"People understand confusedly that there is a change [in the air]," he said. "But no government will satisfy the reactions of the people. They have the greatest reticence and cynicism against anybody who holds responsibility.

"Against the business community because of the financial excesses. Also, the church has disappeared. The popular reaction is also a consequence of the fact that a number of traditional references have disappeared. People are looking for what is the reference."

marektysis · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject:

Taken knowledge of the two opposite truths
I believe now that we have to discriminate the date of may 14 -16th first meeting without stopping thinking to the second.
Thimothy Geithner is supposed to go to Vougliameni, with Kissinger, etc.. we have now to collect info on the schedule of all interesting persons known in Bilderberg before making our choice.
There is some work for the site readers to test the first hypothesis.
Don t forget to give your links.

Have a good work !

Marek

TonyGosling · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: Re: red herring ?

The most powerful elite will meet in Athens
Дата:23 March 2009 :: 19:35:04
The Bilderberg club is famous for gathering the most powerful people in the world at least once per year. There, they can talk behind closed doors. This year, the club will organize its meeting in Athens between 14th and 16th of May, says Elefterios Tipos newspaper.
http://www.grreporter.info/statiaen.php?mysid=1823&t=16&SESID=73r5app049lb54itjc9plci0k3

The meeting venue last year may have been moved and/or decided at the last minute.

This year maybe they will get their 'bomb them back to the stone age' Greek Empire fantasy?

spooky · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:

AFP / Jim Tucker:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/meet_in_greece_173.html

PLUTOCRATS TO MEET IN GREECE

AFP on the trail of Bilderberg group: Site near Athens, Greece, is verified to be scene of 2009 globalist coven

By James P. Tucker, Jr.

Bilderberg will return to its 1993 crime scene when it attempts to meet secretly in Vouliagmeni, Greece, May 14-17. Bilderberg will return to the grounds of Nafsika Astir Palace hotels in Vouliagmeni, 20 miles outside Athens, and meet behind guards at the Westin Nafsika.