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[Johnny Meadows]

CJ, Estulin's books are accurate. And people do join intelligence groups out of a need to protect their family / patriotism. I agree there is a lot more than we realise, but it's their actions rather than their affiliations that count for me. For example, Ganley could very well have a defense contract background - there are articles to support it ( http://www.indymedia.ie/article/87311 ) as well as a connection to the Foreign Policy Research Institute of which Kissinger was a Scholar - but his actions reveal he's trying to reduce the Lisbon Treaty to 25 pages of text that every lay man can read. He also wrote "Constitutional Treaty; A Threat to Democracy and How to Avoid it" for FPRI showing that he's very much Pro EU Democracy, much to Kissinger's chagrin. Noam Chomsky also used to work for Kissinger. That affiliation doesn't make him pro-Bilderberg, but that he understands their methods more clearly than most. Estulin's actions reveal him to be a more respectful ally than Alex. Also, be careful making derogatory remarks - they're better posed as questions or they could be seen as defamatory.

[spooky]

AFP editor Jim Tucker provides updates on the upcoming Bilderberg meeting, May 14 to May 17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pVdmd97_VY

[CJ]

"Also, be careful making derogatory remarks - they're better posed as questions or they could be seen as defamatory".

Let Estulin bring it on....LOL Seriously, ""IF"" the SIS community/Bilderberg wanted the public to know more about what is going on, then there would evidence of this in the MSM. Estulin is feeding a very small group of interested of people, so his pipeline of information can only be "DISINFORMATION". Like any double agent, there must be substance, but in the main, Estulin is leading this small community up the garden path.

I was forecasting the DESIGNED financial crisis years ago and many of you, including yourself were saying I was wrong....now Estulin is telling us the Bilderbergers are deciding on long term stagnation, or depression. But Estulin was not warning about the financial crisis when I was doing it.....I even challenged Estulin with a question on this forum after he posted an article....and all he could do was vanish.LOL

This site and the people on it, need to wake up! The MSM won`t touch Estulin, this is the pitch of his scam....so ask yourself this question; why is Estulin feeding me this ----?

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Timuçin Leflef said :

[krishnamurti]

[Dosius]

I was reading an Athens daily "Ta Nea" today 9th May and came a across a two page article on the Bildeberg meeting. Sure enough it is also on their website.

http://www.tanea.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=1&artId=4515795
(Article is in Greek )

I will go over the Greek attendee's it mentions.

For the opening:
Kostas Karamanlis - Greek Prime Minister
Giorgos Papandreou - Opposition Leader

Also Invited:
From The ruling Party:
Dora Bakoyianni - Foreign Affairs Minister
Giorgos Alogoskoufis - Economics Minister (who also attended the '05 '06 and '07 meetings)

From The Opposition:
Theodoros Pangalos
Anna Diamantopoulou
Gerasimus Arsenis

Others:
Takis Arapoglou - Head of National Bank of Greece
Panagis Vourloumis - Director of Semi National OTE Phone company

The article then goes on to mention a list of previous attendees at older meetings.

Hope this helps anyone compiling a list of attendees.

[krishnamurti]

Thanks Dosius,

I wonder if there's any chance of getting that article translated into english?

Also Dosius, are you in or around where this years conference is taking place?
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[japanhandlers2005]

[japanhandlers2005]

I found that Google translation is good .

http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?prev=hp&hl=ja&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tanea.gr%2Fdefault.asp%3Fpid%3D2%26ct%3D1%26artId%3D4515795&sl=el&tl=en

Google's CEO Eric Schmit (also regular bilderberger)is behind Obama's Green New Deal along with GE Jeff Immelt.

This greek article refers the origin of the Bilderberg and affiliation with the business elites in Greece.

This article refers its founding member in US George Bowls kept the meeting document for a long time , but it was now kept at the Princeton Univ. Library.

I found that Alex Jones's Prisonplanet reports the 1955 official Bilderberg document. This document may be this Bowls document.

[anthropophilia]

Hi to everybody,
during a couple of weeks there was almost no activity in this forum this is why I took a while to come back.
First of all I have to say to krishnamurti that he is right. The videos I checked were from Google Zeitgeist day. I was mislead about this in the most stupid way, sorry. I though that the main speaker of this meeting introducing the invited speakers was Peter Joseph (ridiculous!). Anyway,I still have some suspiciousness about the Zeitgeist Movement. The fact that the New York Times dedicated one article to the Z-day 2009 (just to laugh about it and melt it down) is one of the reasons.

About the manners of Alex Jones, I will say that I was surprised when I saw the Obama´s Deception because, as all you say, you get the idea that he was involved in the pursuit to Bilderberg long time ago...however, I never saw other authors to cite him on these locations at this time (for instance, Estulin uses to refer Jim Tucker many times in his books). In fact, this movie did not go that far respect to the Zeitgeist movies. Anyway, even that he is looking at the business part of all this (look the website of his company:) in an aggresive way I still trust him more than Daniel Estulin at this time (even that i started to care about the Zionist Banking Cartel and follow my own research after reading his books).

I want to pose some questions. Do not you believe suspicious the silence of Estulin with respect to the Swine Flu Hoax? Is it possible to develop all this plan of hoax propaganda without previous discussion in the Bilderberg Meeting? Remember Flu Hoax exploited around 24th April. In theory it could be indicative of a Bilderberg meeting some weeks or months ago...(maybe in the british west coast, as it was already pointed in this forum, after G20 and NATO meetings). Jim tucker was the first claiming the Greek location, however AFP has been reporting also about the Flu Scandal. If Estulin was a double agent wanting to spread disinformation, would not like to speak about the flu as it has all the aspect of being something prepared by the Elite. Attention to the flu scandal will remove some crediblility about the Greek Meeting. An alternative version of the story will be that the ok to the swine flu hoax could be given at Japan, after the TC meeting as informed japanhandlers2005. However this colleague reported 25-26 April for this meeting.

Could BB been already met this year? Could be Estulin wanting to drive us into a false target? As he has been the only of these authors that has not said a word abut the Swine Flu scandal, it appears to me as the most suspicious of being supplying disinformation. Jones and Tucker could be just mistaken or following bad sources (even that still not totally free of suspiciousness)

Timuçin said:
"As for why his English language publisher Tryne Day has a masonic symbol, or why AFP (which Jim Tucker works for) also sports a star in a pyramid symbol, still baffle me. Are the alternative media being controlled by Zionist Masonic groups? Maybe we should provide an alternative to a masonically controlled "alternative media"?"

I have to add that the publisher of the spanish language books is Planeta, the most important publishing group in Spain whose owners may be somehow related to the Elite. It also baffles me. I agree with the need of alternative...

CJ said:
"Let look again: "most of the people who work for the secret service as you probably know are patriots and they love their country and they’re doing it for the good of the nation".....how long has bilderberg been going? Over 50 years....have we ever seen the likes of MI6 and the CIA trying to stop Bilderberg?

So Estulin believes that many SIS officers are willing to leak information to HIM....Estulin is an IDIOT, sure, he`s getting the info, its the info they want us to believe....and you know what, Estulin has the gaul to say this to Alex Jones....and big question marks are up on him as well."

This is a good summary...

I find interesting to investigate the relations between AFP and the CIA. I have not heard about this, but seems interesting.

I do not think that the division of BB is between Zionist and Rockefellers...

I think that the the division is between Zionist (including the Zionist banking cartel nucleous: Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc; and their politics, economists, and burocrats involved in CFR) and some of the European allies. However all of them benefit from their policies so they will always understand each other.
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[anthropophilia]

Japanhandlers2005 said:

"People chages ,but the structure intact. And names of the gathering changes from time to time , but Plutocrats intact.

I think that "the small world networks for Elites " had been structured in such a way.

I suppose that because of independent media reports of the Elite Confabs, they will change the meetings name and strcture in the near future."

Do you believe that after the exposition to the media, in Canada in 2005, Bilderberg will still keep this name and structure? If it was real exposure it probably changed to something else... however, if we are getting the info they want... these authors tracking BB will be working for the system
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[krishnamurti]

[CJ]

anthropophilia.

Sure, swine flu (A-H1N1) has been over hyped, it is man made, but the potential for this virus to "re-combinate" with H5N1 (another man made virus) later this year (maybe waiting in a lab right now), could be a massive killer....6.5 billion people are not in the recovery equation.

[anthropophilia]

I am not biologist, so i do not know how easy is for two viruses to re-combinate genetically spontaneously...but i think that it does not work like this at least that it is done in a lab.

I am interested in this subject. I already heard about the vaccine given to the US military and the drug selled by the labs of Rumsfeld to avoid their secundary effects. Where can I find trustful information about this virus you claim
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[yfactor]

Hi pelasgos

Anna Diamondopoulou holds the usual bilderberg "line" - it is just a forum where guests can discuss matters off the record, without media intrusion.

She states that bilderberg invites people from all over the world! - this is incorrect as guests are normally from Europe and North America and, apart from Turkey (arguably not yet European) meetings have only been staged in these locations.

By what right does this unelected and totally unrepresentative group decide future policy for the rest of us!