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[samuel]

I just red the book by anna politkovskaia, the journalist who's been killed for being against political assassination and corruption in Putin's Russia.

Opposition in this country seems to be against bush and the neo-con, still they oppose Putin for his lack of professionalism, even criminality.

So i doubt, Cheney would be able to kill Putin..they are equivalent in terms of military capacity.
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[CJ]

Samuel, what has the respective military potential got to do with it? Many in the West have theorized that the Russians assassinated Kennedy, of course, this is wrong, but they still peddled it out.

[samuel]

My point was, there is more development made when they work together..and they have had some common goals for many years.

They still speak about friendship in financial times and economist letters.
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[CJ]

Read it all....of course, this is very interesting, but one must understand that these are from the fringe...they were NWO pawns.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7474

[samuel]

Is it an excessively pragmatic move by china or a lie by america?

The Taliban has been receiving "Chinese-made air-to-surface missiles, anti-aircraft guns, landmines, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6975934.stm
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[CJ]

Word on the wire suggest US military fuel shipments to the M.E. have been increased. While this could be your regular disinformation, it could also indicate offensive operations against Iran in the near future.

Remember, this thread was never supposed to be right. My personal policy is to second guess the NWO. Some will say that eventually you will be right because something will happen....If and when this happens, I and many others will have failed.

[CJ]

Read my last post, over a week old. At the time of this post, Bush knew about the latest report on the state of Iran`s nuclear development and that this report says weapons development stopped in 2004 (?). The ? mark is because I`ve had a very long day, but even though I`ve had no time to think, or do reaserch, I felt it important to comment.

The other interesting aspect, is the fact there were no leaks....no leaks even in the alternative media and if I`m wrong, please tell me ASAP.

So Bush gives his usual disjointed speach....which means it has been well planned...all I can think at the moment, is that somethings up....like this is "retro bad intelligence".

Another point, this report could have been quashed, why wasn`t it?

[samuel]

Opposition in the Iranian security council in the truth seeker text are:

Mohammad Sadeq Kharrazi, nephew of then-Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi and brother-in-law to Khamenei's son.

Mr.Kharrazi in an interview with FT expose this person:

Hassan Rowhani, a member of the Supreme National Security Council. Rowhani's membership in the council is as one of the two representatives of the Ayatollah Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran

I thought it would be wise to seek element of the opposition movement in the text.
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[CJ]

The 2007 hour-glass is nearly empty. Some, if not most, will deride this thread as worthless speculation and soon to be out-dated. But this is not the case.

On other forums and a long time before I became really active on this forum. I have clearly stated that we must second guess evil NWO plots. There is only one defence against this policy. If you keep trying to second guess the NWO, you will eventually be proved right and the fact that you`ve made so many guesses....when you are right, its just by luck.

Many would say I`m paraniod, but I feel I`ve failed in the past through lack of persistance in my beliefs. Take Gordon Brown becoming Prime Minister....I SHOULD OF PREDICTED FLASE FLAG TERROR ATTACKS LIKE THE HAYMARKET/GLASGOW AIRPORT, but I failed.

When these constructs took place, I wasn`t supprised and had in my own mind debunked the NWO plot within hours.

So how does this relate to Iran. Well, we have a convergence. January is big in the US election. It is also expected that the economy will take a significant turn for the worst in January. Recent events suggest the NWO has put the ball into the Israeli`s field of play. It is clear Israel will attack Iran....Iran will strike Israel....maybe/likely with nukes and this will allow the US to get involved. There is no doubt that this senario could allow for a wider Middle East war. With failing economic prospects, public opinion will be weakend, and so after the initial Middle East exchange, the Western public will cornered into a situation where they will back a coalition NWO war against Iran. As I tap away, Belgium has been rocked with terror warnings...,I hope we continue to watch, wait and speculate.

In this construct, there is one aspect I`m really concerned about, and that is the NWO sacrifice of Israel....that is the ordinary people of Isreal.

[CJ]

Please take note. Over the last few day, the NWO agenda has switched from Iran/Iraq to Pakistan and the NWO sanctioned assassination of Mrs Bhutto...............

...........at the present time, there could be nuke movements out of and around Pakistan, and this could lead to all sorts NWO false flag terror attacks. The potential is enormous....remember, the NWO and its lacky MSM have shown no concern that Pakistan is a nuclear power.

[Unclebarney]

the glasgow airport bombing attempt was a crude, failed, genuine Islamic extremist attack.

it's important because it highlights the fact that these terrorists' methods are crude and prone to failure.

obviously these people are not in the same league as whoever carried out the 7/7 bombings and 9/11.

[samuel]

I agree there could be nuke movement because they may fear iran would use this disruption to gain access to some.

But i could be wrong, and it could be nuke movement for a false-flag operations.

I doubt it, neither china nor russia want this type of terrorism so they could play a role in disrupting it.

Russia for one, needs to profit from the oil boom to buy strategic assets from OECD so they need a calm environment to make sure the white house don't over-react on buying opportunity. They did it more than once.

China fears the islamist would help Xinjiang independance movement in any way, a false-flag would help hezbollah gain hold in asia.
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[Johnny Meadows]

Okay, our new writer on the Turkish forum just posted an article from:

http://www.stratejikboyut.com/author_article_detail.php?id=243

According to the Turkish journalist Mahmut Karakoseli, U.S. strategy now is to force Iran to strengthen itself for war (with the threat of war with the U.S. ?) but to actually hit Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan and Pakistan themselves in what appears to be a sleight-of-hand technique of destabilising the Middle East. Turkey too would have fallen under this plan until recently he says. I suspect the Turkish delegates who recently gave "the finger" to a future War with Iran displeased Kissinger immensely.

A full translation will take me ages - I'm a slow writer - so please find a professional translator for this.

[CJ]

I can`t see anything to confirm this tactic. In fact I can`t see any geopolitical way-points which would suggest this is correct. But as I`ve said before, Iran might invade Iraq if the NWO provoked it, but they would also nuke Israel at the same time.

[CJ]

There isn`t a direct link, but the Russians are saying that Gordon Brown was the target instead of BA038. Checkout my post in the assassination section called "Gordon Brown".

Brown as PM is affecting the ME and Iraq/Iran/Pakistan....Bush doesn`t have Blair to chat to about blood lust and little boys...we have the Litvinenko saga which links London and Moscow...Moscow is linked with Iran. So you can see the circle.

Brown is not the NWO choice, Sarkozy is a poor standin. If Brown had died at LHR...things would now be smokin...maybe the Russian`s would be getting the blame...maybe Iran. We`d now be facing a state funeral and the MSM pointing the axis of evil finger all over the place and clown Miliband as PM.