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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: GB: Microchips for mentally ill planned in shake-up Reply with quote

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=I4VMVYL1KGVJBQFIQMFCFGGAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/01/17/ncrime17.xml


Great Britain: Microchips for mentally ill planned in shake-up
By George Jones, Political Editor
Last Updated: 1:38am GMT 18/01/2007


Radical measures for tackling crime - ranging from monitoring the behaviour of the mentally ill with radio chips to hormone injections for sex offenders — are to be considered by the Government in a wide-ranging policy review ordered by Tony Blair.


See also: http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-545269


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it could be usefull if only it would be agreed by a jury of half expert and half civilians.

Wrongdoing could still happen, but the good it could do would help lowered the stress of health care workers, who would have tools to know if someone that's been left outside is still fine.

Also, it would help to undermine violent behaviours since proof of being on site of crime would be available.

Not a panacea, but a little more time for other difficult case.

Since the money doesn't go where it is needed, it would need to be democratized.

Many people would trust private industry to put rfid on them so the deterrent effect of the possibility you are trackable would lower the possibility a person is not protected from criminal investigation if attacking you.

Not all, but part of a bigger security apparatus in option and commoditizable price...this would be acceptable.

The right of putting an alarm system on your house could be reproduced on this..in effect giving more than a coercisive rfid system.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in the Psycologie Unit Post Grad PHD department as a Comunity consultant at The University of Manchester, to place a implant of this kind would be unethical and under the ethical guidelines the Professional Body in Psycologie, practisioners cannot go against the clients will as part of their teatment.

Their would be people with in the department who would be against it, their are few who would think controlling congnetive behavour would be benificial for the person, I personally think it removes any humanity in indeviduals, it also a price to pay if you want to remove any negative emotions.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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practisioners cannot go against the clients will as part of their teatment.


But if there is reasonnable suspicion by the doctor in chief of the unit,
then it becomes a solution.

Still, i believe this process can only happen if we can't resolve the civil war in irak, afghanistan, sudan and somalia before troops have to get out.

So this would mean we have let ideological conflicts to let unresolved ethnic racisms, then we would have to use these kind of tools because protectionism would grow bigger, which would leave little space for technological sharing. This would leave bigger inflation and lower the capacity of state to pay for preventive health care for mentally ill.

Just with the massacre in virginia tech, i think the population has taken a turn for the worst. We need security very much, before we can grab psychiatric advances and put them at use at large.

We need to address these problems, because it could well be used in china in a criminally way. This could lead to a civil war as big as irak, if workers and farmers are prevented from leaving their poverty.

In US, it is more risky that terrorism starts again regularly.

I don't take off the table, the possibility it starts because of inter-governmental units operating with the agreeing and help of high-level hedge funds managers or venture capitalists such as private equity.

If we don't take the possibility of democratization of this security apparatus, by raising possible way to use it safely..economic recession will create a hole to fill with control freaks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Microchip implants... Reply with quote

Dear friends,

I can see that Rothschild Desmarais has begun his dirty DESINFORMATION work here too, trying to PROMOTE the idea of chipping human beings ! How revolting !!! Mad

For those of you who don't know me, I'm posting on the frenchspeaking forum about liberticide laws and technologies that are being adopted RIGHT NOW by our felon governments that are sold to the New World Order, all over Europe ! Shocked

There is a PLAN for these horrible technologies, and the plan is GLOBAL ! Surprised More than a plan, I do believe that the word "CONSPIRACY" is more appropriate. Confused

If I refer to the article that lauchenauermartin has posted, I can notice that "Big Brother Blair" follows the steps of the totalitarian US government (which is not a surprise anymore). Twisted Evil The situation in the USA is really frightening regarding the use of RFID chips in people... In Europe, the UK is at the moment the ONLY eurpean country where we can find 2 very well known subcutaneous chips : Verichip Corporation's "Verichip" ( http://www.verichipcorp.com/ ), and Trovan's "ID100IH" ( http://www.trovan.com/products100ih.htm ). Crying or Very sad What a shame for this beautiful country (the country where the FIRST european democratic government was born, more than 500 years ago !). Embarassed Crying or Very sad

I can also notice that the plan in the UK is EXACTLY the SAME plan as the one that was proposed here in my country (Belgium). Shocked Exclamation Last year, around the end of June, a devilish belgian senator called Jacques Brotchi had proposed "chemical castration" through hormones OR MICROCHIP IMPLANTS for sex offenders Twisted Evil (we find almost the very SAME words in the english article above... "coincidence" ? Confused ). This was proposed just after a paedophile crime and murder of 2 little girls (Stacy and Nathalie)...

These chip implants are a REAL THREAT. They threaten PRVACY AND ALL LIBERTIES, as well as the very concept of real Democracy, because they allow behavioral, emotional, hormonal and mind control ! Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Surprised Shocked I'll post you the translation of an article that I wrote myself about these chips, and you'll find evidence that behavioral control is possible through these chips. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation I'll also post you several other articles about this topic that will allow you to understand why I'm VERY concerned about these malevolent implants. Exclamation

These chips are an INSULT to dignity and infringe the human rights. As such, they ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE AND MUST NOT BE TOLERATED ! Mad Mad Mad

We now have LIBERTICIDE devices such as electronic ID cards, biometric passports, smart cards, videosurveillance cameras (CCTV), central databases etc. Shocked We now have "antiterrorist" laws (these law allow to short-circuit constitutional laws and deny the freedoms of the citizens)... Crying or Very sad In the UK, electronic ID's have been PUSHED and adopted in a NON DEMOCRATIC WAY, since more than 80% of the population was AGAINST the use of the electronic ID !!! Mad Exclamation

THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO MONITOR, TO CONTROL AND... TO PUNISH PEOPLE AT ANY TIME AND EVERYWHERE THANKS TO A UNIQUE MEANS THAT WILL REPLACE ALL THE OTHER CARDS (social security, ID, passport, driving license, unemployment documents), THAT WILL TRACK PEOPLE AND THAT WILL ALLOW CASHLESS SOCIETY THROUGH ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS. Twisted Evil

We MUST fight these liberticide and totalitarian technologies and measures ! Mad We MUST resist and OPPOSE ANY treator, ANY dictator and ANY government that will propose such ABOMINABLE devices. Mad Exclamation

We must NOT sacrifice our liberties for convenience or for a so-called "security". Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Please always remember that an excess of "security" means the DECREASE OF LIBERTIES, and the arrival of DICTATORSHIP ! Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Surprised

Regards, Vic.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Britons 'could be microchipped like dogs in a decade' Reply with quote

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23372564-details/Britons+'could+be+microchipped+like+dogs+in+a+decade'/article.do

Britons 'could be microchipped like dogs in a decade'
30.10.06


Experts predict that humans could soon have ID chips implanted under the skin


Human beings may be forced to be 'microchipped' like pet dogs, a shocking official report into the rise of the Big Brother state has warned.

The microchips - which are implanted under the skin - allow the wearer's movements to be tracked and store personal information about them.

They could be used by companies who want to keep tabs on an employee's movements or by Governments who want a foolproof way of identifying their citizens - and storing information about them.

The prospect of 'chip-citizens' - with its terrifying echoes of George Orwell's 'Big Brother' police state in the book 1984 - was raised in an official report for Britain's Information Commissioner Richard Thomas into the spread of surveillance technology.

The report, drawn up by a team of respected academics, claims that Britain is a world-leader in the use of surveillance technology and its citizens the most spied-upon in the free world.

It paints a frightening picture of what Britain might be like in ten years time unless steps are taken to regulate the use of CCTV and other spy technologies.

The reports editors Dr David Murakami Wood, managing editor of the journal Surveillance and Society and Dr Kirstie Ball, an Open University lecturer in Organisation Studies, claim that by 2016 our almost every movement, purchase and communication could be monitored by a complex network of interlinking surveillance technologies.

The most contentious prediction is the spread in the use of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology.

The RFID chips - which can be detected and read by radio waves - are already used in new UK passports and are also used the Oyster card system to access the London Transport network.

For the past six years European countries have been using RFID chips to identify pet animals.

Already used in America

However, its use in humans has already been trialled in America, where the chips were implanted in 70 mentally-ill elderly people in order to track their movements.

And earlier this year a security company in Ohio chipped two of its employees to allow them to enter a secure area. The glass-encased chips were planted in the recipients' upper right arms and 'read' by a device similar to a credit card reader.

In their Report on the Surveillance Society, the authors now warn: "The call for everyone to be implanted is now being seriously debated."

The authors also highlight the Government's huge enthusiasm for CCTV, pointing out that during the 1990s the Home Office spent 78 per cent of its crime prevention budget - a total of £500 million - on installing the cameras.

There are now 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain and the average Briton is caught on camera an astonishing 300 times every day.

This huge enthusiasm comes despite official Home Office statistics showing that CCTV cameras have 'little effect on crime levels'.

They write: "The surveillance society has come about us without us realising", adding: "Some of it is essential for providing the services we need: health, benefits, education. Some of it is more questionable. Some of it may be unjustified, intrusive and oppressive."

Yesterday Information Commissioner Richard Thomas, whose office is investigating the Post Office, HSBC, NatWest and the Royal Bank of Scotland over claims they dumped sensitive customer details in the street, said: "Many of these schemes are public sector driven, and the individual has no choice over whether or not to take part."

"People are being scrutinised and having their lives tracked, and are not even aware of it."

He has also voiced his concern about the consequences of companies, or Government agencies, building up too much personal information about someone.

He said: "It can stigmatise people. I have worries about technology being used to identify classes of people who present some kind of risk to society. And I think there are real anxieties about that."

Yesterday a spokesman for civil liberties campaigners Liberty said: "We have got nothing about these surveillance technologies in themselves, but it is their potential uses about which there are legitimate fears. Unless their uses are regulated properly, people really could find themselves living in a surveillance society.

"There is a rather scary underlying feeling that people may worry that these microchips are less about being a human being than becoming a barcoded product."


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I do not care how the UK government dress it up, I will never accept being microchipped like an animal, if that means having to survive outside the system so be it. Be warned, if you do accept it, it will just be the start of all your rights and humanity being stripped away. The war against terror is bogus, I wish people would wake up and see through the constant lies being fed to them in the media, unfortunately by the time they do it will be too late.

- Caroline Smith, Enfield UK

[size=18]The religious aspects of this are my concern. I refuse to be implanted due to my religious beliefs. They may as well mark you with a 666 because that's what it is.[/size]

If that isnt enough, no one needs to know my movements. Why do they want to know? I am already on a camera 250 times a day from all over and that is privacy invasion enough thank you. I work, I pay my taxes, I obey the laws, now leave me alone. I don't need some jackoff seeing how many times I go to the restroom, or asking me why I stood in front of a building for X amount of minutes or worse yet, knowing my medical wellbeing or, god forbid, be able to terminate me via remote control.


It's crazy and it's not for me no matter how much better they say your life will be with it. You don't want it!

- Blain Kelner, Boston, USA

You will have to kill me before I would ever accept a chip to ID me. That's simple. This is my line in the sand.

- Joe, UK

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and now we have a DARK BROWN PRIME MINISTER WHO WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO FURTHER THE GOALS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER:

Youtube-Video of dark BROWN GORDON and his relation to the NEW WORLD ORDER crowd:


Rolling Eyes http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0 Embarassed

Arrow http://www.youtube.com/user/im2stoned2care Exclamation RESISTANCE AGAINST GETTING CHIPPED!

http://www.no2id.net/ No to ID

Arrow http://www.wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com/phpfusion/news.php
we the people will not be chipped

Twisted Evil http://www.angelfire.com/d20/philadelphians/MMEA.html (DARPA IS FUNDING AN IMPLANTALBE BRAIN CHIP)

Evil or Very Mad http://www.infowars.com/print/bb/FDA_brain_implant.htm (Brain Implant)

Rolling Eyes http://www.illuminati-news.com/surveillance.htm (Electronic Surveillance)

http://www.illuminati-news.com/cloak-and-dagger-op.htm
Embarassed KIDNAPPING, TORTURE & ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE

Arrow http://www.surveillanceissues.com/ IMPORTANT DOCUMENT Evil or Very Mad

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2004/040704swastikachip.htm
Embarassed CHIP WITH SWASTIKA DESIGN USED AS TRACKING DEVICE!!!!

Embarassed Embarassed Evil or Very Mad http://www.illuminati-news.com/brain-neural-implants.htm
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