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joe stirling

Dear truth-seekers and humanitarians and anti NWO, please read our debates on the Mason's forum at

http://www.thefreemason.com/forum/forum.asp?forum_id=2

This is one of our posts below:

This is a collective reply by Second Family UK (for victims of Freemasonry)

No, we are definitely not playing games. Let the truth out.

Some of you have ganged up on Joe, understandable if you believe that Freemasonry is all good.

In the last three years, Masons have made it clear to us that they will accept nothing but FM cookies.

Mike Martin, you have locked our threads, which means Joe is left to post topics to himself ? (suits you sir) please unlock.

As soon as we can afford to set up an independent audience, we will invite a few of you from this forum. You will get a chance to see the evidence with your own eyes. Past victims used to take their stories to Masonic police stations, not any more.

The funds that Second Family receive go to printing and info sent to victims who are not online.

Dear Mike Martin, your hatred goes way beyond us. We have studied your previous posts. The truth will hit people like you the hardest. Why do Masons like you tell other Masons not to read anything by professional writers with credibility ? We at SF believe you know exactly what you are defending. Talk to us Mike, see below.

Here is our question to you, Mike Martin: " If Freemasonry has a purpose, why can't it be done for free (and with transparency) ? We need an answer. This is not personal, just the fact that you are the moderator and your flock look up to you.

There is an American Mason who goes by the name Corsig. He and his Masonic pals go round the internet boards and they spend 24/7, 365 messing up the forums with deliberate time-wasting rubbish. They brag about how they try to fill up all the threads available. They have moved from "Alex Jones Prison Planet" forum to the "Above Top Secret" forum. Why would they do this ?

Do you guys mind if we invite some SF victims and supporters to this debate ? as the odds/points of view are presently against us.

Second Family UK are a small group of Masonic victims who are affiliated to professional truth-seeking and humanitarian groups worldwide. We have ex-Masons on board, also support from 12 MPs (so far). We have only just started and growing by the day. We still have to deal with the massive Masonic infiltration and spoiling tactics used by this criminal network/organisation.

How can we go forward if Masons are instructed not to listen to the discriminated profane. Now, before you go cherry picking the bits that offend you, be sensible. Bitching is non productive (we've tried it). Second Family UK (to help and educate each other)
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We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. Second Family UK do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and SF will show you why they all hide.

DRUID · Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 8

wow.
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Mike Martin · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject:

Hi there,

To the people (Joe, Bill & Chas so far) all using the Joe Stirling User ID.
As you don't seem to want to read or respond to any of the replies posted to you at TFM I thought that if I accept your invitaton and come here to your "home turf" you might feel more at home and might actually respond.

So here goes.

You made a big thing about the fact that Freemasons pay membership subs to be members of the Order, so I asked you what point you were trying to make but you just ignored me. Could you please enlighten me here?

You also talked about what you called the "Masonic Police", I would be very interested to understand what you meant. Do you really believe that all UK Policemen are actually Masons?

You also stated that if a "Masonic Victim" wanted to complain to the Police that they should find a female officer. I assume that you are not aware (common with anti-masons) that there have been 3 Masonic Orders Initiating women as Freemasons for around 100 years in Britain.

Mike

Mike Martin · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:

joe stirling · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:

hello wafflin mike

you have answered nothing, same old drivel from a criminal network trying to protect their plunder

never a straight answer

return the post we sent today on your forum, you are also stopping your forumites from posting on your forum until you have read it ??

there is no such thing as an anti mason, only law abiding taxpayers who want a level playing field

we at second family reckon that there is over 15 million secret society members in the uk alone. we can expand your mind if you will let us

did you know that the freemasons have coordinated evil groups in the uk that are not on any register ? yes mike of course you do

but joe public doesn't know yet, we have the job to tell them
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We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. Second Family UK do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and SF will show you why they all hide.

Bondi · Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 55 Location: United Kingdom

joe stirling · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:53 am Post subject:

Dear dic ed

Mike Martin? of UGLE closed our debate on your Masonic forum.

To everyone else, my apologies for talking to a voice behind the curtains.

This evil thing has no balls.
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We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. Second Family UK do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and SF will show you why they all hide.