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CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

So where is Danial Estulin? Cool

I`m pleased to see that Tony believes dates and venues may have been leaked. Smile

marektysis · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

Dear Cj,
Yes but by who? give me the last info about next venue, i 'll share it with the members of the topic.... Smile

Marek

CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

marek; I have no idea....I was commenting on a post by Tony, that previous Bilderberg dates and venues have been leaked in the past. This goes to the HEART of my own posts which are critical of Estulin....he is a Bilderberger. Cool

TonyGosling · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject:

Dear CJ

Can you explain quickly why you think that?

CJ · Suspended Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 540 Location: London

Hi Tony, in the thread "May 1st- 4th", page 3, post 42. Of course, you are only entertaining the possiblity. But you must also ask the question, "why would Bilderberg" take the trouble to leak information which interests 10, maybe 20,000 people world wide...that includes verious SIS geeks and MSM who don`t even publish material on Bilderberg?

As I`ve said before, Mr Estulin has such indepth inside information, so he`s either on the inside, or he`s being used. If he has a mole on the inside, why hasn`t Bilderberg delt with it? If he`s being used and the leaked information isn`t being reported by the MSM....then this information is being targeted at sites like this one, and no one else.

Of course, I am entertaining the idea that Estulin is a fantasist. Bilderberg is a construct (real), within a construct, navigation must not be lost in a sea of spin and lies. Its good to know you are keeping an open mind. Smile

Johnny Meadows · Committed Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 312

FYI: You may have a point here, but it seems more likely that his sources are being controlled. Sometimes, when you reach a high enough public profile, Bilderberg won't touch you as people will start pointing fingers and investigating Bilderberg's indiscretions. His book has sold millions of copies all over the world, so plenty of people know about him and his opposition to this organisation. If he gets killed, a small but significant percentage will be motivated to do something about it. Pretty soon you will have 10 Estulins where there was only one. In cases like these, it's better for Bilderberg to just keep quiet, control the leaks and keep paving forward to their globalist empire.

In case anyone is wondering where he is, I think he was doing a book-signing in the States (NY?) recently. Also, if it weren't for him, the political writer Nevra Yarac would not have written as good an article last year exposing Bilderberg in the political magazine Aktuel:

http://www.timucin.com/aktuel/1.jpg
http://www.timucin.com/aktuel/2.jpg
http://www.timucin.com/aktuel/3.jpg
http://www.timucin.com/aktuel/4.jpg

CJ, your concerns about Estulin could certainly be valid - I sometimes have doubts myself and maybe he could be "controlled opposition" - but they can just as easily be applied to Alex Jones or Michael Moore (laugh). In the end, are 80-90% of the sum total of their actions helping or hindering us? I'm interested in your points here as I need to figure out whom I can trust and how much. Especially after being fed a load of BS by Atola.

marektysis · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

Dear all,
TO say my puzzling is that when i began to be interested in Bilderberg again ( after a few years trying to have a normal life with a second spouse) in the year 2000, never i heard about Daniel.When he came back saying in005 he was a 'specialist' about bilderberg, i was a bit chocked because never i heard of him.I immediatly told about on the french forum i was writing upon. The fact he was hired by the american free press in 2005 and 2006 is not my problem, but theirs. I will reveal my personnal thinking about the 2007 prestations he done.His prestations were a false hotel location and a partiel list of attendees who was 37 or 38% false.
(in regards with the official list Maximus was publishing-directly or idirectly..).
As me may understand , Estulin is a freelance journalist who was not hired this year.SO, for which reason should he write about this subject.
Specialist? no more than me. He wrote a book he offered me, but i disagree in most of it ( spanish version)
I remember he was collecting infos from me in personnal messages to have a chance to 'discover' Bilderberg i discovered in 2004-2005-2006-2007. 2007 discovery was a discovery dedicated to the turkish peoples who were really working on this subject.This year i will never dedicate it to Greek people, because the were not working a lot with me on the bilderberg topic.
I may be wrong as i said it you, but i would reckonignize it immediately,
as i am an honnest searcher.
If not in Greece, perhaps in belgium, Germany or elsewhere.

Too late for us then.
But a good chance in Greece this Year..That is way any Greek has to pass before this hotel and say us 'OK, something important is happenning there' or to say ' nothing is happening there'

That is the less i am asking athenians.

Marek

Johnny Meadows · Committed Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 312

Okay, I see your point. However his book was translated into Turkish just before the meeting and was publicised and still provides an insight. I've read the English translation and find it to be fairly accurate.

Mr. Jones on the other hand made it appear like he was in Turkey for his Endgame documentary thanks to footage from another crew. Wink

This really undermines the efforts of other researchers.

Turkey discovery was thanks to journalists leaking the city and date, which then appeared on this site thanks to Tony and Maximus. Hotel discovery was thanks to Marek. It's well documented.

TonyGosling · Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

Estulin on Alex Jones

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAtspDE8lnk

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc_4uJBNIjU

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZHqmL7Qag
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Johnny Meadows · Committed Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 312

Yeah they sound reasonable. Funny how Alex Jones says it's not about "competition", or "granstanding" even though he's been doing this most of his life with researchers like William Cooper, Jim Keith or the people on this site.

Tony, Estulin sounds reasonable, but it doesn't explain Marek's experience with him, or why he was inaccurate last year.

Sorry, but the only ones I trust are Jim Tucker and some of the guys on this site.

TonyGosling · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

okay, this is getting a bit distracting and sounding too much like the old 'divide and rule'.No more unsubstantiated insinuation or allegations against Daniel please.
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japanhandlers2005 · Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 32

Hi everyone,

Alex Jones came to Chantiliy,Virginia as you saw on Youtube.
Also, I comfirmed that Jim Tucker was on the scene.

Does anyone know whether or not Mr. Estulin did come there?

Yasu

Johnny Meadows · Committed Poster Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 312

In fairness, anyone who helps out Jim Tucker in exposing these meetings is in my good books. Estulin may have made the reasonable decision not to fly into the highly controlled Dulles International, considering it's managed by a private security firm linked to the Bush administration.