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[vicflame]

A list coming directly from Bilderberg ? I'm not really confident. Plus, there mighty be "unofficial attendees"... Vic.


Source : http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-releases-official-attendee-list-and-press-release.html


BILDERBERG RELEASES OFFICIAL ATTENDEE LIST AND PRESS RELEASE


Prisonplanet.com
May 31, 2012


In an uncharacteristic move, the official Bilderberg Meeting website has released a press release and attendee list for 2012 before the conference has officially started. Both are posted below:


Press Release:

The 60th Bilderberg Meeting will be held in Chantilly, Virginia, USA from 31 May – 3 June 2012. The Conference will deal mainly with political, economic and societal issues like Transatlantic Relations, Evolution of the Political Landscape in Europe and the US, Austerity and Growth in Developed Economies, Cyber Security, Energy Challenges, the Future of Democracy, Russia, China and the Middle East.

Approximately 145 participants will attend of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America and other countries. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds are from finance, industry, labor, education, and communications. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.

Bilderberg takes its name from the hotel in Holland, where the first meeting took place in May 1954. That pioneering meeting grew out of the concern expressed by leading citizens on both sides of the Atlantic that Western Europe and North America were not working together as closely as they should on common problems of critical importance. It was felt that regular, off-the-record discussions would help create a better understanding of the complex forces and major trends affecting Western nations in the difficult post-war period.

The Cold War has now ended. But in practically all respects there are more, not fewer, common problems – from trade to jobs, from monetary policy to investment, from ecological challenges to the task of promoting international security. It is hard to think of any major issue in either Europe or North America whose unilateral solution would not have repercussions for the other.

Thus the concept of a European-American forum has not been overtaken by time. The dialogue between these two regions is still – even increasingly – critical.

What is unique about Bilderberg as a forum is the broad cross-section of leading citizens that are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy; the strong feeling among participants that in view of the differing attitudes and experiences of the Western nations, there remains a clear need to further develop an understanding in which these concerns can be accommodated; the privacy of the meetings, which has no purpose other than to allow participants to speak their minds openly and freely.

In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced.

Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-nine conferences have been held. The names of the participants are made available to the press. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, and their standing; all participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.

For further information refer to www.bilderbergmeetings.org. A list of participants is attached.



Bilderberg Meetings

Chantilly, Virginia, USA, 31 May-3 June 2012

Final List of Participants

Chairman


FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group

DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG

GBR Agius, Marcus Chairman, Barclays plc

USA Ajami, Fouad Senior Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University

USA Alexander, Keith B. Commander, US Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency

INT Almunia, Joaquín Vice-President – Commissioner for Competition, European Commission

USA Altman, Roger C. Chairman, Evercore Partners

PRT Amado, Luís Chairman, Banco Internacional do Funchal (BANIF)

NOR Andresen, Johan H. Owner and CEO, FERD

FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA

TUR Babacan, Ali Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs

PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto President and CEO, Impresa; Former Prime Minister

FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP

FRA Béchu, Christophe Senator, and Chairman, General Council of Maine-et-Loire

BEL Belgium, H.R.H. Prince Philippe of

TUR Berberoğlu, Enis Editor-in-Chief, Hürriyet Newspaper

ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia

GBR Boles, Nick Member of Parliament

SWE Bonnier, Jonas President and CEO, Bonnier AB

NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA

AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt

SWE Carlsson, Gunilla Minister for International Development Cooperation

CAN Carney, Mark J. Governor, Bank of Canada

ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis CEO, PRISA; Chairman, El País

AUT Cernko, Willibald CEO, UniCredit Bank Austria AG

FRA Chalendar, Pierre André de Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain

DNK Christiansen, Jeppe CEO, Maj Invest

RUS Chubais, Anatoly B. CEO, OJSC RUSNANO

CAN Clark, W. Edmund Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group

GBR Clarke, Kenneth Member of Parliament, Lord Chancellor and Secretary of Justice

USA Collins, Timothy C. CEO and Senior Managing Director, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC

ITA Conti, Fulvio CEO and General Manager, Enel S.p.A.

USA Daniels, Jr., Mitchell E. Governor of Indiana

USA DeMuth, Christopher Distinguished Fellow, Hudson Institute

USA Donilon, Thomas E. National Security Advisor, The White House

GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc

ITA Elkann, John Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.

DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus

USA Evans, J. Michael Vice Chairman, Global Head of Growth Markets, Goldman Sachs & Co.

AUT Faymann, Werner Federal Chancellor

DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S

USA Ferguson, Niall Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University

GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc

CHN Fu, Ying Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

IRL Gallagher, Paul Former Attorney General; Senior Counsel

USA Gephardt, Richard A. President and CEO, Gephardt Group

GRC Giannitsis, Anastasios Former Minister of Interior; Professor of Development and International Economics, University of Athens

USA Goolsbee, Austan D. Professor of Economics, University of Chicago Booth School of Business

USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company

ITA Gruber, Lilli Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV

INT Gucht, Karel de Commissioner for Trade, European Commission

NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings

USA Harris, Britt CIO, Teacher Retirement System of Texas

USA Hoffman, Reid Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn

CHN Huang, Yiping Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University

USA Huntsman, Jr., Jon M. Chairman, Huntsman Cancer Foundation

DEU Ischinger, Wolfgang Chairman, Munich Security Conference; Global Head Government Relations, Allianz SE

RUS Ivanov, Igor S. Associate member, Russian Academy of Science; President, Russian International Affairs Council

FRA Izraelewicz, Erik CEO, Le Monde

USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard

USA Johnson, James A. Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC

USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Senior Managing Director, Lazard

USA Karp, Alexander CEO, Palantir Technologies

USA Karsner, Alexander Executive Chairman, Manifest Energy, Inc

FRA Karvar, Anousheh Inspector, Inter-ministerial Audit and Evaluation Office for Social, Health, Employment and Labor Policies

RUS Kasparov, Garry Chairman, United Civil Front (of Russia)

GBR Kerr, John Independent Member, House of Lords

USA Kerry, John Senator for Massachusetts

TUR Keyman, E. Fuat Director, Istanbul Policy Center and Professor of International Relations, Sabanci University

USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.

USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa

TUR Koç, Mustafa Chairman, Koç Holding A.Ş.

DEU Koch, Roland CEO, Bilfinger Berger SE

INT Kodmani, Bassma Member of the Executive Bureau and Head of Foreign Affairs, Syrian National Council

USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.

USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute

INT Kroes, Neelie Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda

USA Krupp, Fred President, Environmental Defense Fund

INT Lamy, Pascal Director-General, World Trade Organization

ITA Letta, Enrico Deputy Leader, Democratic Party (PD)

ISR Levite, Ariel E. Nonresident Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

USA Li, Cheng Director of Research and Senior Fellow, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution

USA Lipsky, John Distinguished Visiting Scholar, Johns Hopkins University

USA Liveris, Andrew N. President, Chairman and CEO, The Dow Chemical Company

DEU Löscher, Peter President and CEO, Siemens AG

USA Lynn, William J. Chairman and CEO, DRS Technologies, Inc.

GBR Mandelson, Peter Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel

USA Mathews, Jessica T. President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

DEN Mchangama, Jacob Director of Legal Affairs, Center for Political Studies (CEPOS)

CAN McKenna, Frank Deputy Chair, TD Bank Group

USA Mehlman, Kenneth B. Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.

GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist

FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations

PRT Moreira da Silva, Jorge First Vice-President, Partido Social Democrata (PSD)

USA Mundie, Craig J. Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation

DEU Nass, Matthias Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit

NLD Netherlands, H.M. the Queen of the

ESP Nin Génova, Juan María Deputy Chairman and CEO, Caixabank

IRL Noonan, Michael Minister for Finance

USA Noonan, Peggy Author, Columnist, The Wall Street Journal

FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc
USA Orszag, Peter R. Vice Chairman, Citigroup

GRC Papalexopoulos, Dimitri Managing Director, Titan Cement Co.

NLD Pechtold, Alexander Parliamentary Leader, Democrats ’66 (D66)

USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute

NLD Polman, Paul CEO, Unilever PLC

CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. Chair, Torys LLP

ISR Rabinovich, Itamar Global Distinguished Professor, New York University

GBR Rachman, Gideon Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, The Financial Times

USA Rattner, Steven Chairman, Willett Advisors LLC

CAN Redford, Alison M. Premier of Alberta

CAN Reisman, Heather M. CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.

DEU Reitzle, Wolfgang CEO & President, Linde AG

USA Rogoff, Kenneth S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University

USA Rose, Charlie Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose

USA Ross, Dennis B. Counselor, Washington Institute for Near East Policy

POL Rostowski, Jacek Minister of Finance

USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury

NLD Rutte, Mark Prime Minister

ESP Sáenz de Santamaría Antón, Soraya Vice President and Minister for the Presidency

NLD Scheffer, Paul Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University

USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.

AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG

FRA Senard, Jean-Dominique CEO, Michelin Group

USA Shambaugh, David Director, China Policy Program, George Washington University

INT Sheeran, Josette Vice Chairman, World Economic Forum

FIN Siilasmaa, Risto Chairman of the Board of Directors, Nokia Corporation

USA Speyer, Jerry I. Chairman and Co-CEO, Tishman Speyer

CHE Supino, Pietro Chairman and Publisher, Tamedia AG

IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital / Thiel Capital

TUR Timuray, Serpil CEO, Vodafone Turkey

DEU Trittin, Jürgen Parliamentary Leader, Alliance 90/The Greens

GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy

FIN Urpilainen, Jutta Minister of Finance

CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Chairman, Novartis AG

INT Vimont, Pierre Executive Secretary General, European External Action Service

GBR Voser, Peter CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc

SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB

USA Warsh, Kevin Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University

GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times

USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company

CAN Wright, Nigel S. Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister

USA Yergin, Daniel Chairman, IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates

INT Zoellick, Robert B. President, The World Bank Group


Rapporteurs

GBR Bredow, Vendeline von Business Correspondent, The Economist

GBR Wooldridge, Adrian D. Foreign Correspondent, The Economist

[TonyGosling]

nice - well spotted Vic
handy to have at the start
very handy

In mainstream UK press at last this year too!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2152468/Bilderberg-meeting-Reports-machine-gun-nests-site-secretive-gathering.html
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Demonstrators heckle Bilderberg attendees
Threaten jail, allege plans for re-education camps
By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Thursday, May 31, 2012
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/31/demonstrators-heckle-bilderberg-attendees/

International power brokers arriving in Chantilly for the 2012 Bilderberg conference were treated to a rude welcome by a raucous crowd of about 200 demonstrators Thursday afternoon.

As black limousines and SUVs pulled into the secluded Westfields Marriott hotel, the site of this year’s annual meeting of the world’s richest and most influential, the protesters, many of whom wielded megaphones, shouted them down.

Even hotel employees weren’t immune.

“Don’t serve these criminals,” one man shouted as members of the wait staff drove onto the hotel grounds.

The Bilderberg gathering, given its name after the first meeting at the Netherlands' Bilderberg hotel in 1954, is viewed in conspiracy lore as the central planning session for an eventual one-world government. The European debt crisis is rumored to be at the top of this year’s Bilderberg agenda, but, among members of the crowd, opinions differed about what was being discussed inside.

“They’re talking about Mitt Romney’s running mate and they’re talking about setting up re-education camps for all of us,” said Ross Mullaney, 21, who drove to Northern Virginia from his home in New Hampshire.

Like most of the other demonstrators, Mr. Mullaney said he was inspired to make the trek by the work of Alex Jones, radio host and leading voice in American alternative media. An iconic figure among his listeners, Mr. Jones is also one of the loudest critics of the Bilderberg group.

He led the tongue-lashing as Henry Kissinger, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt, Goldman Sachs International Chairman Peter Sutherland, World Trade Organization Director-General Pascal Lamy and about 150 other Bilderberg attendees showed up for the meeting, which officially began Thursday afternoon and continues through the weekend.

“You’re going to prison, scumbags,” he shouted at a dark limo with tinted windows as it turned slowly into the hotel, the entrances to which were closely guarded by dozens of Fairfax County police officers.

Demonstrators were kept confined to grassy areas outside the facility’s main gate. While law enforcement was strict in keeping everyone away from the vehicles and off the hotel grounds, no one was arrested, and there were no serious incidents, officers told The Washington Times.

But police also have warned members of the press that anyone attempting to get into the hotel would be arrested. Guests, including Mr. Jones and his crew, were kicked out of the hotel before the conference began.

Rumors were circulating among the crowd that federal law enforcement had set up machine-gun nests atop the hotel, though those reports couldn’t be confirmed.

Often mocked by the mainstream media, Mr. Jones and his listeners think that inside the Westfields hotel, world leaders, bankers and business titans are plotting the death of democracy and the replacement of the U.S. government and those of other nations with a centralized global power structure.

They’re willing to take extreme measures to combat it.

Zac Bergholtz, a 21-year-old college student from Nashville, Tenn., said that after he began listening to Mr. Jones‘ show, he grew concerned that medical vaccines given to his young son weren’t designed to protect him. Like others in the crowd, he fears the medicines are meant to squelch brain power and make ordinary people easier to control by authorities.

He’s stopped giving his son, now almost 2 years old, any doctor-recommended vaccines. Mr. Bergholtz also said that the increased use of police and military drones is the first step in “taking the humanity out of the humans.”

Bilderberg attendees appear to pay virtually no attention to Mr. Jones, Mr. Bergholtz or the other protesters who show up like clockwork at the meeting each year, even when it’s held in remote locations, such as last year’s gathering in the Swiss Alps.

The mysterious group releases little information about the conference, though it did on Thursday afternoon put out a list of this year’s participants. Critics believe the list is by no means complete, and many high-profile persons — such as Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton — are present but intentionally left off the official roster.

The full list is posted at bilderbergmeetings.org.
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[TonyGosling]

Transnational elite policy networks such as Bilderberg are an integral, and to some extent critical, part of the existing system of global governance. The practical problem is not so much that they exist, although we could talk about this ad infinitum, it is instead related to what they are doing and why they are doing it. It is here that our elites have been found most wanting. Their self-serving acceptance and peddling of dominant market logics, their fundamental lack of criticality and a lack of meaningful progress in the area of global social and political development is threatening the very peace and prosperity we look to them to provide.

I've never considered myself a radical. Like many people, I've been schooled in the belief that ideology and zero sum politics are dangerous things, that discussion and compromise are infinitely preferable to confrontation and dogma, that anger and violence have no place in a modern progressive society, and that we should vilify and distrust those who suggest otherwise. At heart, I still share these views but something has changed. My sense of fairness, pragmatism and reasonableness has been shaken to the core by the gross injustices of our society and the pervasive incompetence and corruption of our business and political elites. We face a fundamental crisis of legitimacy where engagement with -- and trust in -- our political systems is at an all-time low. Rightly or wrongly, Bilderberg has become a poster child for everything we fear, distrust and loathe about our policy elites. It's not, first and foremost, that our sensibilities have been spiked by systems that are undemocratic -- because, in a meaningful sense, they never have been -- but, critically, the knowledge that they're not acting in the interests of the whole. Our elites have failed us and, what's more, will continue to fail us unless we make them do otherwise.
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Bilderberg meeting 2012: Everyone not invited
01.06.2012
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/01-06-2012/121288-bilderberg_2012-0/

By Xavier Lerma

Near Washington, D.C., the Bilderberg meeting started Thursday, May 31 at Chantilly, Virginia, USA at the Marriott Hotel and will end June 3, 2012. Peasants like you and me are not allowed in that hotel. A concerned citizen booked a room way in advance but was later kicked out from the Marriott Hotel in this video.

Real Investigative Journalists

The mainstream media avoids them but only a few brave souls like Abby Martin from RT , Alex Jones from Infowars.com and the Guardian's Charlie Skelton's are doing the best to report the situation. Make sure to check their websites and videos for the latest news on the Bilderberg meeting.


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The Bilderbergs are people who say they are helping humanity so they can make a buck, but are as arrogant as Lucifer and no more sympathetic than he is towards mankind. They live under the "golden rule". Whoever has the gold makes the rules. Rockefeller himself admitted they are conspiring against the best interests of the Unites States to form a one world government.

New World Order Illegal

Why is the Bilderberg meeting a big deal. Well, for one thing it is illegal under the Logan Act which makes their New world Order illegal. Under the Logan Act a U.S. citizen without the authority of the U.S. cannot make deals with people from other countries. Obama and Hillary met secretly with the Bilderbergs on June 6, 2008 at the Marriott Hotel in Chantilly, Virginia.

No wonder Obama refused to go in 2008 to the Normandy memorial services commemorating D-Day June 6, 1944. Sounds like impeachment to me but congress says it will cause black people to riot everywhere. In other words, congress got paid off too. If life's realities have not hit you in the face yet, you can be sure the Bilderbergs did not mention your name wondering what was best for you.

They did not ask themselves like a church social wondering how they can help you and me. I can just imagine Soros asking, "I wonder how I can help Mr. Lerma today? What can we do to improve his situation in life?" No, it's all about them. Money is their key focus. It is their heart.

Has anyone ever been arrested? No one has been arrested for violating the Logan Act. Only journalists and protesters have been arrested. The Washington Times reported "A perimeter of about a half-mile has been set up around the Northern Virginia hotel, and all non-Bilderberg guests reportedly were kicked out of their rooms." If anyone gets too close they will be arrested. Paul Watson of Infowars.com reported two people were arrested for photographing the Bilderberg limousines. Why would they arrest people taking pictures of a limousine? I guess some Bilderbergers prefer anonymity which makes taking photos against their law.

Who is part of the Bilderberg meeting?

Well, you can be sure few Russians are there. There are hateful critics of Russia's beloved Vladimir Putin like Garry Kasparov of the United Civil Front. Many are from the USA like Senator and former presidential candidate, John Kerry; German-born and Nixon's Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger; Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels; Google's Executive Chairman, Eric Schmidt; LinkedIn Co-founder and Executive Chairman, Reid Hoffman; Alcoa's Chairman and CEO, Klaus Kleinfeld; Dow Chemical Company's President, Chairman and CEO, Andrew Liveris; Harvard University's Professor of Economics, Kenneth Rogoff. Bill Gates is not there but Microsoft Corporation's Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Craig Mundie is there. They are all big wigs.

I don't see Soros' name on there but who can really trust them to include everyone posted on their website? German Chancellor Angela Merkel had been spotted according to Alex Jones' information. David Rockefeller was also reported to attend as usual but has not been seen yet.

Origins

Soros was a Nazis collaborator and the Bilderbergs were started by German born Prince Bernhard (video / photo of him with Nazis salute) who was a member of the Nazis party and the infamous SS (Schutzstaffel). If you doubt, click the links, research it yourself and read some history. Most of the links in this article are videos. I once thought the Bilderbergs were another UFO-like conspiracy made up to make money and sell stories. However, it's very suspicious that the mainstream media is of one mind and ignores the Bildergbergs especially when the media even reports on UFO's from time to time.

What are they Planning?

So what are the Bilderbergs planning this time? Some say they are planning who the next U.S. president will be and choosing his vice president. A logical assumption since this is an election year. However, is this not America where the people choose the president? Where all the media blamed Russia and Putin for voter fraud? Unfortunately, things have not been good in America ever since President Kennedy was assassinated and the Communists took over.

The American dilemma

Americans have their own Iwo Jima to fight on their own land if they want their freedom back. It is more difficult now since the emasculation of America was started years ago. Instead of yelling "Sparta", they need to yell in defense of America. Protesting and challenging the Bilderbergs can be done with the new and advanced social media. Perhaps a third independent party can evolve to fulfill the dreams of 1776. Once Americans unite they can raise their flag of freedom over their country and the brave souls who died in past battles like Iwo Jima can rest in peace knowing they did not die in vain.

The world

Russia has nothing to fear since they have a strong defender in Vladimir Putin. China invites capitalism but is a dangerous dragon to those who threaten it. The Western world needs to unite to stop these elitists who can only grind their heel in tyranny over most of the west. Exposing these condescending snobs has been done by brave reporters. Now the job is yours to spread the word because your freedom is at stake.

Xavier Lerma

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