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[CJ]

lol

[marek]

Dear Cj,


Don't worry with trouble makers, and just write what you believe.I am accustomed with true trouble makers and i give you my word they won't stay here for long.I just believe there's not enough comments and posts.

I read about the US carrier story as well. Possible story, but once everybody is speaking about....

Two years ago, there was a huge exercice in the Persian Golf with some carriers. The USS JF Kennedy was then based in Dubaï. As the new military doctrine is now teaching, a carrier is not the kind of thing needed for effective strike. Better having troops and planes based on the ground to have maximum effect. Iran is not fearing such demonstrations..

There are a lot of possibilities in the Gulf game, and war is an option, as was saying the "commander-in-chief".

marek

[CJ]

I now read the US has amassed a large naval feet which is gathering in the Eastern Med. and Persian Gulf, this being the largest US deployment since Nam. The US also has bases North of Iran and are well placed to strike Tehran. Is this a game of bluff, because if it is, its not going to have much effect, or is this just the next logical step in Amerikas attempt to remain top-dog? The buildup to war with China...of course, this possible conflict, is just one US option. The other is another post.

[Maximus]

The story with an update : http://www.halturnershow.com/TacticalNukeDetonatedInIraq.html
The comments (useful) : http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html (scrowl down)

The mainstream media account :
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/11/ap/world/mainD8KM637O1.shtml
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/09/us-military-fire-at-ammunition-depot-causes-explosions-in-baghdad-2/
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/39115.aspx

And a very interesting movie with big flash and dust cloud like on vicflame's movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_1pUfDfgY0

[CJ]

I`m sorry Maximus, but I have little time to view your links. However I did read a claimed exclusive from the Halturnershow...a lecture by the head of the Chinese military...war with the US within 15 years. I`ll try and view your links on Thursday.

[Maximus]

Sorry for the number of links. I'm French and my english is not very well. So, I'm not summarize.

But, in fact, my post was a response to a "Vicflame"'s ( a forum's member) post which concerns the halturnershow's story. But, he surely edited his post because it is not in this page now...

In conclusion, I'm not think that a nuclear weapon explodes, but a simply special munition.

[Vitchilo]

[marek]

Bagdhad night 'specials'

do you remember when US air force was bombing Bagdhad at night? there were the same cameras filming the walls of Saddam's palaces crumbling under explosions. Never a flash occured on our TV although the night conditions in baghdad were the same than today. In reports there are distances from 5 to 20 kilometers from center of Baghdad to camp Falcon. Distance is an important factor to judge correctly what happened.If it is 20 km there is no valid explanation to the 'phenomenon'.

I am giving my opinion, but people knowing Baghdad may surely gice us better info about this distance ( the film is evendtly taken from a building, thus showing something +/- far not in proportion with the 5 km the papaer raports are saying.



MArek

[CJ]

I believe that a tactical neutron bomb was used in Falluja. Al Jazeera was about to cover this story, but after the adverts the story was dropped.

Talking of nukes. Oaklahoma, Bali, Jakarta, Taba, East African embasies and 9/11....all "micro nukes"! Its a strange world!

[Maximus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIO3xk5-tXM&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBMqTpDnitA&eurl=

[Seer]

[marek]

Here you will find the 'official' explanation of this move.
Marek


LONDON, October 16 (IranMania) - The Persian Gulf states will for the first time participate in a US-led exercise designed to stop Iran from obtaining ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons, World Tribune reported. Officials said at least two of the six GCC states have agreed to participate in an international naval exercise in the Persian Gulf at the end of October. They said Bahrain and Kuwait would contribute naval platforms and other assets in attempt to coordinate non-proliferation efforts in the Persian Gulf. "The participation of the GCC in such an exercise is a major achievement and reflects the growing regional concern of Iran as a nuclear power," an official said.

The exercise would be based in Bahrain, which hosts the US Fifth Fleet, Middle East Newsline reported. Bahrain is located about 120 kilometers from the Iranian coast. Officials said the exercise, scheduled for Oct. 31, would be within the framework of the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative, a group of 66 members formed to monitor and intercept shipments of weapons of mass destruction from North Korea to Iran and Syria. This would be the first PSI exercise in the Persian Gulf, with ships practicing interdiction near the Iranian coast. The four other PGCC states, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, have not relayed their approval to participate in the PSI exercise. Officials said the UAE could join the exercise as an observer.

Officials said the exercise would begin with a simulation at Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain. They said commanders from the PGCC as well as Britain, France and the United States would respond to a scenario in which a North Korean ship laden with WMD material was headed for the Persian Gulf region. The United States has sought to include PGCC countries in security missions in the Persian Gulf. Earlier this year, Pakistan headed an international task force and urged the six Persian Gulf Arab states to participate.

"The combination of Iranian actions, support for terrorism, specifically for Hizbullah and Hamas; their nuclear actions; and their wider policy to the Arab world, amount to Iran bursting into the region over the last 13 months in an attempt, in essence, to destabilize the established order and to rearrange the power relationships in the region," Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns told the Council on Foreign Relations on Oct. 11. "There's no question that there is no greater challenge to America's vital interests in the Middle East than making sure that we're able to blunt the current diplomatic and military and terroristic and nuclear offensive."

[marek]

Some news from camp falcon

"On October 10, 2006, at approximately 10:40 p.m., a 82mm mortar
round, fired by militia forces from a residential area in Abu T-Shir, caused a fire at an
Ammunition Supply Point (ASP) at FOB Falcon. The ASP, containing tank and
artillery rounds, in addition to smaller caliber ammunition, set off a series of large
explosions. About 100 troops from the 4th Infantry Division were reported to be
stationed at the base at the time, but no injuries were reported.” (Emphasis added.)
"The damage to the area will not degrade the operational capability of MND-B
(Multinational Division Baghdad)"
My message to the reporting officials at DoD is appended........

Source:
TBRNews.org
http://www.tbrnews.org/ Another Disastrous Coverup
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2547.htm#001 Forward Base Falcon Disaster

by Brian Harring

Late on the evening of October 10, 2006, Iraqi resistance groups lobbed mortar and rocket rounds into the immense ‘Forward Base Falcon,’ the largest American military base in Iraq, located 13 km south of the Green Zone in Baghdad. In addition to accurate mortar fire, Grad and Katyusha rockets were also used.

Falcon base was designed to house a large contingent of American troops, mostly drawn from the 4th Infantry Division, stationed at Fr. Bliss, Texas. At the time of the attack, there were approximately 3000 men inside the camp, which also was filled with ammunition supplies, fuel, tanks and vehicles.

Iraqi contractors had assisted in the construction of the camp, which occupied nearly a square mile and was surrounded with guard tower-studded high concrete walls, and it is now apparent that the Resistance movement had been given important targets from “sources familiar with the layout” of the base.

After the initial shelling, fuel and ammunition stores began to erupt with massive explosions that could be heard, and seen, miles away inside the Green Zone where U.S. military and diplomatic units were heavily guarded.

The explosions, all of them termed “immense” by BBC reporters, continued throughout the night.

In response, US aircraft indiscriminately rocketed and bombed various parts of the city, BBC and AFP correspondents eported, trying to knock out the launch sites of the rockets

The BBC's Andrew North, in Baghdad, said the explosions started at about 2300 (2100 BST) and were becoming "ever more frequent" as the huge fires spread throughout the base, punctuated by tremendous explosions as more fuel and ammunition dumps ignited.

“Intelligence indicates that civilians aligned with a militia organization were responsible for last night’s mortar attack,” said Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Withington, spokesman for the U.S. 4th Infantry Division.

An after action report, issued by the Department of Defense, stated that: “On October 10, 2006, at approximately 10:40 p.m., a 82mm mortar round, fired by militia forces from a residential area in Abu T-Shir, caused a fire at an Ammunition Supply Point (ASP) at FOB Falcon. The ASP, containing tank and artillery rounds, in addition to smaller caliber ammunition, set off a series of large explosions. About 100 troops from the 4th Infantry Division were reported to be stationed at the base at the time, but no injuries were reported.” (Emphasis added.) "The damage to the area will not degrade the operational capability of MND-B (Multinational Division Baghdad),"

When the flames had been brought under control on the morning of the 11th of October, primarily because the entire camp had been gutted, nine large American military transports with prominent Red Cross markings were observed by members of the foreign media taking off, laded with the dead and the wounded.

Over 300 American troops, including U.S. Army and Marines, CIA agents and U.S. translators were casualties and there also were 165 seriously injured requiring major medical attention and 39 suffering lesser injuries 122 members of the Iraqi armed forces were killed and 90 seriously injured members of same, were also evacuated to the U.S. military hospital at al-Habbaniyah located some 70km west of Baghdad.

Satellite pictures and aerial photographs from neutral sources showed that Camp Falcon suffered major structural damage and almost all the U.S. military’s supply of small arms ammunition, artillery and rocket rounds, tons of fuel, six Apache helicopters, an uncounted but large number of soft-skinned vehicles such as Humvees and supply trucks were damaged or totally destroyed. Foreign press observers noted “an endless parade” of military vehicle recovery units dragging burnt-out heavy tanks and armored personnel carriers to another base outside Baghdad.

Many of the walls and towers of the camp were damaged or leveled as were many of the barracks, maintenance depots, and there was considerable damage to the huge mess halls that could hold 3000 soldiers, the huge recreation center with its basketball courts and indoor swimming pools and all the administration buildings

Although official U.S. DoD statements indicated that there were no deaths; that only a hundred men were inside the base guarding billions of dollars of vital military equipment and that there were “only two minor injuries to personnel,” passes belief and certainly reality is more painful than propaganda.

Not only has the U.S. military machine lost much of its armor and transport, and its entire reserves of ammunition and special fuel, but the casualty list for only the first day is over 300..

Here is a transcription of that list who were evacuated to other hospital units:.

In re: Insurgent attacks on Forward Base Falcon on 10-11 October, 2006

Official Casualty List from U.S. military hospital at al-Habbaniyah located some 70km west of Baghdad. U.S. medical personnel at al-Habbaniyah initially stated that the US military hospital at the massive American-occupied air base there had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel. The military hospital in al-Habbaniyah, the largest in occupied Iraq, was opened on 12 May this year in response to sharply rising (and redacted) US casualties.


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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/251006games.htm
US naval war games off the Iranian coastline: A provocation which could
lead to War?

Michel Chossudovsky / GlobalResearch.ca | October 25 2006

There is a massive concentration of US naval power in the Persian Gulf
and the Arabian Sea. Three US naval strike groups off the Iranian
coastline are deployed: USS Enterprise, USS Eisenhower and USS Iwo Jima
Expeditionary Strike Group.

The naval strike groups have been assigned to fighting the "global war
on terrorism."

Tehran considers the US war games to be conducted in the Persian Gulf,
off the Iranian coastline as a provocation, which is intended to trigger
a potential crisis and a situation of direct confrontation between US
and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf:

"Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise
intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction
and missiles.

Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry
official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious.
Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise
intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction
and missiles.

The Iranian foreign ministry official said the US-led exercises were not
in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are
aimed at fomenting crises, he said." (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006)

USS Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5) to arrive in Arabian Sea

The USS Boxer (LHD 4), --which is the flagship for the Boxer
Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5)-- which left Singapore on October 16,
is scheduled to join the three naval strikes groups. ESG 5 is comprised
of USS Boxer, Bunker Hill, USS Dubuque (LPD , USS Comstock (LSD 45),
USS Benfold (DDG 65), and USS Howard (DDG 83). ESG 5 also includes
PHIBRON 5, the 15th MEU, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726).

“We are about to enter a part of the world that can be very dangerous,”
said Chief Aviation Ordnanceman (AW/SW) Jacques Beaver, Boxer’s flight
deck ordnance chief. “We must be flexible and prepared to defend
ourselves from any threats.”

Boxer has been preparing for the weapons upload for two months by
completing required maintenance and electronic pre-checks. Checks ensure
that the ship’s missile and launching systems are up to standard and
safe to load with live ordnance.

“It has taken a lot of hard work for our people to get this done,” said
Chief Fire Controlman (SW) William Lewis, combat systems, fire control
division’s leading chief petty officer. “You cannot measure the
importance of having these defenses guarding the lives of the Sailors
and Marines in this strike group.”

BOXESG is comprised of USS Boxer (LHD 4), USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), USS
Dubuque (LPD , USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65) and USS
Howard (DDG 83). The strike group also includes Amphibious Squadron 5,
the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC
726) and Canadian Frigate HMCS Ottawa (FFH 341).

BOXESG is currently conducting operations in support of the global war
on terrorism while transiting to the Arabian
Gulf." (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2006/october/3.htm)

Canada is part of the Expeditonary Strike Group (ESG 5)

Canada is formally participating in this military deployment under the
disguise of the "war on terrorism". The Canadian Navy has dispatched
Frigate HMCS Ottawa, which is now an integral part of ESG 5, under US
Command. It is worth noting that particular emphasis has been given to
medical evacuations and combat medical support suggesting that a combat
scenario could be envisaged.

Boxer and Ottawa, both operating in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of
responsibility, know that they can play a vital role to aid humanitarian
assistance operations, medical evacuations or combat medical support
that would rely heavily on the medical capabilities of the Boxer strike
group. Cross training Sailors from ship to ship helps ensure the success
of the strike group should BOXESG have to respond to any medical
scenario, according to Richardson.

“Training is a necessary part of any evolution,” said Richardson.
“Anytime you’re working with another nation, it’s important that we
understand their capabilities just as much as they understand ours, so
in the event anything occurs we know where our assets are.”

The cross training also fostered cooperation between the two allies
which provided Verville and Boxer corpsmen a forum to learn about each
other’s navies and each other’s culture." (Military.com October 2006)

Dangerous Crossroads: Tonkin II?

"An incident" in the Persian Gulf could be used by the US as a pretext
for war against Iran.

A war pretext incident, similar to "the Gulf of Tonkin Incident", which
triggered the Vietnam war, could be used by US forces, with a view to
justifying retaliatory military action against Iran. In August 1964,
President Lyndon B. Johnson claimed that North Vietnamese forces had
attacked US destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin. The Tonkin incident, which
had been manipulated, contributed to unleashing a full-fledged war
against Vietnam:

"A phantom attack on two U.S. destroyers cruising the Gulf of Tonkin was
staged by the Pentagon and the C.I.A. The bogus attack occurred early in
August, 1964. That evening President Lyndon Johnson went on television
giving the grim details of the non-attack. Later, however, it was
revealed that navy commander James Stockdale flew cover over the Gulf of
Tonkin that night. Stockdale disclosed that U.S. ships were firing at
phantom targets—targets that didn’t exist. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
that drew the U.S. into the quagmire of Viet Nam simply didn’t happen.
Johnson, as presidents so often do, lied to the American people. The
result was the rapid passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which was
the sole legal basis for the Viet Nam War. As a result of Johnson’s lie,
three million Vietnamese people and fifty eight thousand U.S. soldiers
died." (Charles Sullivan, Global Research, January 2006)

ANNEX: US NAVY


Navy Personnel
Active Duty: 349,783

Officers: 51,979

Enlisted: 293,368

Midshipmen: 4,436
Ready Reserve: 131,802 [As of 30 September]

Selected Reserves: 70,500

Individual Ready Reserve: 61,302
Reserves currently mobilized: 5,996 [As of 18 October]
Personnel on deployment: 36,037
Navy Department Civilian Employees: 175,454

Ships and Submarines
Deployable Battle Force Ships: 280

Ships Underway (away from homeport): 133 ships (47% of total)

On deployment: 104 ships (37% of total)

Attack submarines underway
(away from homeport): 22 submarines (40%)

On deployment: 11 submarines (20%)
Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Philippine Sea
USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - Persian Gulf
USS Nimitz (CVN 6 - Pacific Ocean
USS Dwight D.Eisenhower (CVN 69)- Mediterranean Sea
USS Ronald Reagan - Pacific Ocean

Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) - Persian Gulf
USS Nashville (LPD 13) - Persian Gulf
USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41) - Persian Gulf

Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Boxer (LHD 4) - Indian Ocean
USS Dubuque (LPD - Indian Ocean
USS Comstock (LSD 45) - Indian Ocean

Essex Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Essex (LHD 2) - South China Sea
USS Juneau (LPD 10) - South China Sea
USS Harpers Ferry (LSD 49) - South China Sea

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Tarawa (LHA 1) - Pacific Ocean
USS Saipan (LHA 2) - Persian Gulf
USS Wasp (LHD 1) - port visit, Copenhagen, Denmark
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Bataan (LHD 5) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Cleveland (LPD 7) - Pacific Ocean
USS Shreveport (LPD 12) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Ponce (LPD 15) - Atlantic Ocean
USS San Antonio (LPD 17) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Ashland (LSD 4 - Atlantic Ocean
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD 52) - Pacific Ocean

Aircraft (operational): 4000+

currently/or en route in/to Persian Gulf-Arabian Sea
(according to available information)