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TonyGosling Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 1415 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: Bilderberg and the Intelligence 'Community' |
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The gaze is upon you
by Vikram Sood - October 25, 2006
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1828637,00120001.htm
Intelligence cooperation or liaison, as it is called, is not a game for the novice or the uninitiated. Only a select few in an intelligence organisation are normally allowed to handle the arrangements, that too, after having worked in the system for years. Intelligence cooperation goes beyond mere exchange of information. It can include help to upgrade abilities and facilities in each other’s countries. It is a vital and safe channel of communication, even in the absence of diplomatic relations or near rupture in the same. In today’s world, intelligence liaison has become fair game for all. Spying on friends is not taboo in this game and the best time to make inroads is when relations are warm and comfortable.
Heads of government have quite often used their intelligence chiefs to convey sensitive messages to their counterparts or maintain contact with each other, especially when, in the absence of formal relations, there was need for political deniability. Effective intelligence is also a by-product of sound relationship and trust between the intelligence chief and the chief executive of a country.
Intelligence cooperation need not only be a bilateral arrangement. Immediately after the end of World War II, the English-speaking victors of the war — the US, Canada, Britain, Australia and Canada — got together to exchange information about the common threat, which was the Soviet Union at that time. Communications intelligence was exchanged by these countries. At times, this intelligence was extended to uncomfortable political opponents who could not be covered by agencies because of domestic laws that prohibited such espionage. In the Eighties, the exchange evolved into Project Echelon, which graduated from exchanging processed intelligence to ‘raw’ intercepts. Echelon monitors about 120 satellites all over the world and includes non-military communications of governments, business houses, private establishments and individuals.
When stories about the Echelon leaked — that one section of the allies was snooping on the other — the French and Germans were livid. There was uproar in the European Parliament and the US and British were accused of “State-sponsored information piracy”. There were suspicions, even accusations, that the US used this system to advise its negotiators in trade talks with Japan. On other occasions, it was apparently used to help Boeing beat Airbus in the deal with Saudi Arabia and to clinch the Enron deal with India, beating the British bid this time.
The volume of traffic intercepts is indeed huge; the volume of international telephone traffic, including that from cellphones, is now estimated to be approximately 200 billion seconds a year. Any communication sent into space is susceptible to monitoring. Thus, there exists the need for massive downstream activity to process this. Reliance on key words and voice recognition has its problems; the former can cause communications traffic jams and the latter is not completely reliable.
In addition, reconnaissance satellites — ‘vacuum cleaners’ that sweep in everything and take high resolution photographs — are used to keep the globe under watch. These can detect nuclear blasts, warn of missile launches and record the telemetry of missile flights. Bases located at varied points all over the world help download this data. It could, perhaps, be comforting that one lives in such a stratospheric cocoon. On the other hand, it could be highly disconcerting to realise that we live in Orwell’s world.
The CIA and KGB maintained contacts with each other even when the Cold War temperatures were near freezing. At about the same time in the Eighties, the US had two listening posts in Qitai and Korla in the Xinjiang province to listen into Soviet Russia. The Germans also had an intelligence relationship with the Chinese service at least as far back as in the Eighties. French intelligence chief, Alexandre de Meranches, founder of the secretive Safari Club that included other friendly and trusted intelligence agencies, had foreseen Soviet intrusion into Afghanistan and had advised the newly-elected Ronald Reagan to prepare for a counter-offensive in Afghanistan.
Apart from the obvious influence mechanisms, the Western power elite functions in many secretive ways. In one of his earlier novels, Robert Ludlum had four powerful international individuals as the secret controllers of the world. It did not seem real then, as Ludlum’s multi-talented, covert cold warriors fought ruthless wars against enemies of the free world. But Ludlum obviously based some of his novels on the realities of the day and his fantasies were more real than those of General Musharraf.
There are other influential secret societies in the West, like the Bilderberg Group formed in 1954 by a small group of rich and powerful trans-Atlantic individuals to help keep Europe allied to the US and communism at bay. This group (named after the hotel in Arnhem, in the Netherlands, where they first met) remains an exclusive and secretive group that includes politicians, financiers, media moguls and the corporate world. The group allows no reporters, there is only an answering machine and no minutes are issued. This leads to various interpretations about its role. For instance, the Serbs blamed Bilderberg for the war that led to the ouster of Slobodan Milosevic.
Another secret society with a number of former intelligence officers as members is Pinay Circle (earlier known as the Cercle Violet). It is believed to be a secret Right-wing transnational intelligence and direct action group used to fight communism. The Circle is said to be mainly in the business of regime change in the West to keep the US and Europe close to each other. The group continues to exist although communism is no longer the threat it was. Its members have included Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, (all three associated with the Bilderberg Group), George Soros, Paul Volcker, Turki Al-Faisal, former CIA chief William Colby, among other US, British and German intelligence officers. Nadhmi Auchi, a one-time Saddam Hussein confidante, was also a member of this secret group. British luminaries have included Lord Julian Amery and James Goldsmith. The Circle is also linked to other influential groups like the Heritage Foundation and Opus Dei, often through its members.
There were allegations that in the Seventies, the group helped in the downfall of British premiers Harold Wilson and Ted Heath, Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam and France’s President, Francois Mitterrand. Beneficiaries included Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.
Like any other system, intelligence functions best in a certain milieu. Many world powers have treated their intelligence services as an important sword-arm to provide internal security and to secure foreign policy objectives.
When the Mossad was hunting for the Black September terrorists in the Seventies, one of the agents had to masquerade as a woman. This agent was Ehud Barak, who later became the Israeli Prime Minister. Many others who headed their countries’ intelligence services switched to overt governance with ease and distinction. Bush Sr in the US was one; Andropov, Primakov and Putin in Russia; Kang Sheng and Chiao Shi in China were members of the Politburo; Hosni Mubarak looked after the Egyptian Intelligence during Sadat’s presidency.
In a world of globalised terror, economics and competition, the traditional threats to the developed world have changed. Democracy and its preservation is serious business, extending beyond the tinsel and glamour of the screen and the rhetoric at election rallies. The system of global surveillance with and against friends will remain, with all levers of control lying with the rich and powerful.
Vikram Sood is former Secretary, Research & Analysis Wing |
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Dubya
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Drival and even if it was partly true, we must remember what the writer tells us....only a few know the real agenda!
If we consider these great SIS carbuncles and their twisted agendas. They survive, because its all done on a need to know basis...most people who work in SIS only get to see a few parts of a vast picture. This allows a few key players access to the real agenda. When someone writes a script like this, you can only conclude thats its SIS propaganda....its a shame ex-MI6 agent Tomlinson doesn`t write for this site!
When one considers Shayler and his ejection into the public arena, we must ask the question "why"?
Shayler was a NWO warning to everyone in SIS...step out of line, and your life will be hell! Does Shayler understand this, who knows. But its possible that Shayler was forced into his role. Many in SIS will have thought very hard about the depth of their morality in light of what has transpired since 9/11. |
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drazdikjr
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: Human Intelligence and Freedom of Information Act |
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The international community ultimatly recognizes one of the most powerfull forces in the world the U.S. dollar. U.S. currency because of its historic stability in international exchages throughout global chaos is a powerfull means of the intelligence community.
However, the intelligence community must also recognize the most powerfull of weapons, personal trust and human intelligence. When wielded by intelligent and trusted persons this weapon is most secretive and politically correct. Together with the U.S. dollar backing this weapon it can move almost anywhere in the world. Maybe except China or the Russian Federation depending on who you know.
Concerning, international law and its intergration with human intelligence the world has had enough. Enough of covert operations which have affected their citizens and economies that it has forced the United States of America to foster a more transperant government. So, with the interest of public law and civil rights of its own citizens the U.S.A. developed the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) amoung its government agencies.
For example lets look at a case in point of the intelligence network of information harboring and disemination under international law. Department of Defense Intelligence Information System (DoDIIS). Within this data array the business-to-business of the U.S. government and agencies is operating. Such as the U.S. Department of Justice under the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR); Title 28 Judical Administration, Title 28 Vol 2 Part 701.14 FOIA and Title 28 Chapter IX Part 906 Third Party's use of diseminated information.
Example agencies;
Task Force International Criminal Court
P.O. Box 20061
25000 EB The Hague
The Netherlands
Freedom of Information Act
Defense Threat Reduction Agency
8725 John J. Kingman Road
MSC 6201 Fort Belvoir, Virgina 22060-6201
United Nations Office on Drugs & Crime
Vienna International Cetre
P.O. Box 500, A-1400 Vienna, Austria
Averill P. Graham
Acting FOIA /PA Officer Chief Disclosure Divison
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms or Explosives
Department of Justice
Washington D.C. 20226
National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS)
P.O. Box 8000
London SE11 5EN
England
Science for Peace & Secruity
Public Diplomacy Divison (PDD)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization
Bd. Leopold III
1110 Brussels, Belgium
Now lets hypothesize that a key human intelligence agent of the United States of America holding a security clearance is allowed to use their authority and is also willing to take responsability for using the government systems or structures. Even if only operating via telephone on a land line or cell phone while maintaining phone records and voice recordings under a militarized system of codification.
Lets suppose an operation was conducted within the Department of Justice jurisdiction as outlined in the above Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) and the agent in question was involved in counter-terrorism with the threat of small arms, importation of illegal narcotics, and illegal immagration. They are operating within NorthEastern United States in the States of Pennsylvania and Ohio. Some of the major points of analysis responsable due to the essence of their security clearance would be as follows;
National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) Johnstown Pennsylvania USA
PA Army War College Carlisle Pennsylvania USA
CERT Carnegie Mellon University Pennsylvania USA
Since they are human intelligence professionals as long as their activities do not cross international boarders then the international agencies who do business with the United States of America are not lawfully obligated. If the human intelligence operators remain secretive and trustfull to all the local intelligence data array and or systems with their operators. This is the hypothesis. _________________ Andrew Drazdik Jr
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Dubya
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: Dollar Power |
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Agreed, the Dollar is all powerful, this is not because of US economic power, becaue the US economy has been sliding into the trash-can, since the mid 70`s. The only reason why the Dollar appears (illusion) strong, is because the US carries a huge military stick.
With the US going from war to war. Its this need to generate debt which keeps the US economic sham going. The US requires a net inward flow of over $3 billion every working day and this, just to service the interest on its debt....in 1929, US debt was 266% of GDP....today its way over 300% of GDP...BTW, that $3 Billion is over 80% of global savings....and is unsustainable in the long term.
Only wars can keep the US going. The war in Iraq is costing $10 million per hour...$240 million per day. If one reads accounts of Nam, fields full of ordered equipment that was never used, never required...I`d like to invest in that...this is how it works!
The Telegraph had an article recently which mentioned the PPT "Plunge Protection Team", a group of US investment banks who all agree to buy dollars in order to prop up the economy. The PPT used to be a conspiracy theory which was denied.....but now is well within the loop. Imagine that you are a private investor who`s very good at judging the market, then your world gets turned over because the PPT starts buying...isn`t this a "cartel"....so what happened to the so called free market. Another NWO illusion.
MI6 is the worlds dominant SIS agency, this is followed by the CIA and Mossad. They serve the interests of Britain and the US elite (Lord Jacob Rothschild/Rockefeller). Considering that both countries central banks are privately owned (the BofE was privatised in 1946...if you believe)!
We must always keep in mind, that all "systems" (structures), are a controlling mechanism: the Dollar, petrodallars, the UN, Nato, the war on terror and the MSM. We could add the legal system, police and political process.
Remember, the PPT is "insider dealing"....but because its done by our NWO masters, its OK. |
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twitchythetramp
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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"In his Feb. 23, 1997 story headed "Plunge Protection Team," Washington Post reporter Brett Fromson identified the Federal Reserve chairman, the Securities and Exchange Commission chairman, the chairman of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, and the secretary of the Treasury as the team's key players."
"The Gathering Storm - FTW Special Subscriber Financial Alert - Mike Ruppert, July 2002"
In other words, the PPT is NOT private banks (insofar as the Fed pretends not to be one) it is unelected representatives of the US Government using the money of US citizens to protect the assets of the global elite. |
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drazdikjr
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: Does "Control" of the intel community promote espi |
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Multinational Inter-operability Council
http://www.jcs.mil/j3/mic/doc/08_06/MIC_Strategic_Plan_08Jun06.pdf
U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psycological Operations Command
http://www.soc.mil/usacapoc/capoc_default.htm
UNITED STATES PACIFIC COMMAND (USPACOM)
INTELLIGENCE SUPPORT TO COMBINED OPERATIONS
https://www2.apan-info.net/mpat/documents/J7_579092.doc
Joint Intel Preparation of the Environment
https://www2.apan-info.net/mpat/documents/JIPB_checklist.doc
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Science for Peace & Security http://www.nato.int/science/index.html
United Nations: Action to Counter Terrorism
http://www.un.org/terrorism/cttaskforce.html
U.S.-JAPAN SECURITY CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE
http://www.mod.go.jp/e/index_.htm
I have listed some resouces above that to most people don't amount to anything. I guess because their tax-dollars or government revenue is not supporting the majority of their operations. The U.S. military always seems very sensitive to the issue of the military budget. My guess is that security does not mean being able or having the ability to conduct a counter-strike action or operation. The defination of "secruity" to intelligence experts means professional work with government for "We the People" who rely on government.
In my personal case not only do I represent the United States as a citizen, but I have also obtained credintials from the Japanese External Trade Organization (JETRO) for language profeciency. Supposedly, if you need to do business the saying holds true for Japan "When in Rome do as the Romans". However, JETRO maintains offices worldwide just as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. I begin to think about NATO & the UN relationship with the Russian Federation, the US trade deficite with China, and Middle Eastern banking in the UK with abstinence in the US. This is a case in point for the weight of finance in defining "Control" with foreign countries.
So, back to my main subject of the term "Control" of the intel community. Does "Control" promote espionage? Because, if I can get you to work for me and work for free then I save 1.) time 2.) human resources 3.) money and all else that is required to do work. In today's world with the vast complex system of global politics & finance I am interested in how the intelligence community defines "espionage". Is this only associated with crime? _________________ Andrew Drazdik Jr
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