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[joe stirling]

While in a field, I saw this large unusual shaped rock. Interesting piece of mother nature but nothing special.

Wrong, says a passing mason, this is a special rock. it is an ancient rock with many properties. It is a symbolic rock. A famous mason slept next to this rock and it sheltered him from the weather. We have taught all masons to worship this rock as it was the great architect that carved it.

If you read some of our sacred literature, you will read about this masonic rock. It is named after a masonic god called "Boulder"

to be continued....
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We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. Second Family UK do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and SF will show you why they all hide.

[Bondi]

by your own admission, that is not even a real scenario, but one of humour.

[joe stirling]

GOOD BOY
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We are all victims of Freemasonry, only........ YOU haven't figured it out yet. Second Family UK do not hate Masons or anybody, only ignorance and evil. Why do all Masons hide ? Give us a public register and SF will show you why they all hide.

[Bondi]

I don't get you...

You go on about honesty, not hiding behind things, not giving false impressions and you make a thread like this.

You write as if you are revealing something, it says a mason told you about a masonic god, which is mis-leading. People arrive here, as I did, because of your SF site and all it's claims of prove and promtion of honesty.

This is false, what you state you believe in is false, it's all a prank.

Do a bit of research, all the crap about devil worship comes from one prank played by a gent years ago, invented a whole order to make it convincing to try and prove his point, his lie, his dishonesty. In all, what he did is worse than anything that has EVER been proven of Freemasonry, and right here, right now you have done similar...

Do you have a decent bone in your body...

[Second Family (UK)]

[/quote] Bondi asked SF' Joe
Do you have a decent bone in your body...[/quote]

Can anyone believe an evil crooked Mason just said that ? We suspect that you are a professional paid timewaster for THE BROTHERHOOD. JC
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If you do nothing then the Masons win.

[willow the wip]

Some lodges do the Goat of Mendez ritual in Turkey, others have proven cases of Satanic Ritual Abuse amongst masons in the USA, You denigh Lucifer is Satan masonry teaches that they are diffrent, Lucifer is the light bringer.

I personally Believe the opposite.

In "Cult and Ritual Abuse" by J. Noblitt and P. Perskin, 1995, Praeger Pub, 1-800-225-5800, there is a discussion in Chapter 10, Investigating Western Occultism about Gnosticism and its connection to secret societies. Alchemists might have created alter personalities, to "stay young" (child alters) or "become immortal", pass down their traits to others in their alters.

Luciferian cults (where God is capable of good and evil) are described by some of their patients. Many of these patients have alleged ritual abuse where Masonic ceremonies, items or members were there. A symbol of The Order of the Eastern Star (female branch of the Masons) is an inverted pentagram.

Some believe Masonry has promoted Gnostic thinking. Albert Pike (33 degree Mason) ties the Masons to Jacques de Molay of the Knights Templar. Some believe the Masons may have helped create the Hell Fire Club (Black Masses) and the Illuminati. Some believe the KKK can be traced to a group made up of some Masons and derived rites and symbols from the Masons. "Many survivors of ritual abuse allege traumatic experiences associated with what they believe to be KKK activities, and many of these describe the KKK as a cult." (Pg, 103, Noblitt and Perskin) Some people believe the following were Masons: Aleister Crowley (alleged ritual human sacrifice, O.T.O., Golden Dawn), Dr. W. W. Wescott (Golden Dawn), Karl Kellner and Theodore Reuss (O.T.O.), alleged MAFIA connection, Mazzini.

BTW their are Master Masons in America who are KKK members.

Founded by a Mason, only women related to Master Masons may join. The degree system is connected to changed Biblical stories, where in two stories it is believed torture or human sacrifice are alluded to. The pentagram is Eastern Star's symbol. It is claimed by some that Youth groups, Job's Daughter, Rainbow girls, DeMolays are "feeder groups" for the Masons. Source: "The Masonic Connection: Hidden Secrets of the Eastern Star" by Cathy Burns, available from: Spring Arbor 1-800-395-2682

From another book of Cathy's, "Hidden Secrets of Masonry", Albert Pike allegedly states that Masonry intentionally misleads Masons (hidden agenda). J.S.M. Ward (A Mason) writes that Osiris (Egyptian God, human sacrifices, Egyptian God of the dead) saved mankind. She mentions that the gods of Masonry allegedly represent SATAN in different costumes.

Albert Pike talks about Lucifer bearing the light. The word "Illuminati" is derived from Lucifer. The Illuminati were dedicated to a "New World Order". The back of the dollar bill has a pyramid with the all seeing eye on it, Roman numerals with the starting date of the Illuminati and the words "New World Order" in Latin. Some believe that most of the Presidents were Masons.

other refs are

"The Deadly Deception" by Jim Shaw and Tom McKenney from Words of Living Ministries, P O Box 413, Marion, KY 42064.

"Masonry Beyond the Light" by William Schnoebelen, With One Accord, P O Box 457, Dubuque, IA 52004-0457

"The Dark Side of Freemasonry" (collection of articles) Saints Alive in Jesus, P O Box 1076, Issaquah, WA 98027

"Secret and Suppressed" ed. by Jim Keith, 1993, Feral House, political connections

The article, "Deviant Scripturalism and Ritual Satanic Abuse Part Two: Possible Masonic, Mormon, Magick and Pagan Influences" by Stephen Kent, (Pub. in Religion ) U of Alberta, Dept of Soc, Faculty of Arts, 5-21 HM Tory Building, Edm, Canada, T6G 2H4.



A report in Scotland’s Sunday Herald, from March 2003, revealed that 106 documents had been sealed. These included “a letter connected to Hamilton, which was sent by George Robertson, currently head of NATO, to Michael Forsyth, who was then Secretary of State for Scotland,” as well as “correspondence relating to Thomas Hamilton’s alleged involvement in Freemasonry.” A deputy justice minister, Michael Matheson, was quoted in the article questioning the official justification for sealing the documents: “The explanation to date about the 100-year rule was that it was put in place to protect the interests of children named in the Central Police Report. How can that explanation stand when children aren’t named?”
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Christ over Christianity.

[Second Family (UK)]

TEN OUT OF TEN TO WILLOW
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If you do nothing then the Masons win.

[Bondi]

[Second Family (UK)]

We warn all that MASONIC DONKEYS ONLY EAT MASONIC CARROTS. Now keep contributing. You're part of our documentary. K
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If you do nothing then the Masons win.

[Bondi]

Documentary, if you want to show me continually asking you for proof of your claims and you continually replying with insult, quips and anything but something remotely close to proving anything, then fine PLEASE DO...

Plus, I thought you could do your docu-joke because Freemasonry had all the money?

[Second Family (UK)]

You would like SF to present evidence to an invisible FM for you to be judge n' jury
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If you do nothing then the Masons win.

[Mike Martin]

[Second Family (UK)]

No point talkin to another invisible FM
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If you do nothing then the Masons win.

[Bondi]

[Mike Martin]