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| joe stirling wrote: | ha ha ha all this from an old brainwashed tosser who is hiding behind the curtains whimpering "please show an invisible coward your evidence"
All Masons are seriously concerned because www.secondfamily-uk.com have hit the nail on the head. We're coming to take you away aha aha |
I actually would agree with you jo I went through your site it is very good.
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I actually would agree with you jo I went through your site it is very good. |
Could you give the link to where it shows how the Freemasons have done all these things to Joe. I spent two days on that site beginning of the week and couldn't find it, or any evidence that links the events to Freemasonry, anymore than to the church, the aliens, the man in the moon, [place any organisation name here].... |
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willow the wip
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we can always know who masons are by the so-called masonic handshakes the reast are from media resources, you cannot just brush them off with out showing prof that they are wrong.
HRH giving the Master Mason's 'Grip'...
The Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England, the Most Worshipful, His Royal Highness, Prince Edward George Nicholas Paul Patrick 33°, Duke of Kent, Knight of the Garter, Field Marshall, GCMC, GCVO, ADC, Hereditary Grand Master of Anglo-American Freemasonry.
The previous Duke of Kent - George Edward Alexander Edmund was installed as Grand Master by King George VI in 1939. He died three years later in 1942 in a mysterious plane crash in Scotland, six months after it was alleged he and the Duke of Hamilton had kept a moonlight appointment with ReichFuerher Rudolf Hess on the Caledonian Moor.
Historians tell us that the late Grand Master was Pro Nazi and travelled the Fatherland http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/document/003-ps.htm
Here is a quote from a book
| Quote: | You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations.
Ronayne
Handbook of Masonry, page 183 |
The Government called him Britain's Biggest Crime Boss - 'Worse than the Kray Brothers' The United Grand Lodge of England called him 'Worshipful Master'...
A criminal record stretching back to 1966
CRO Number 97102/66
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Dec 66 Attempted burglary Old St Mags Ct conditional discharge
June 67 Receiving stolen cars and property SE London Quarter Sessions 1 yr Borstal training
May 75 Assault on police and theft of sunglasses Marlborough St Mags Ct fined £125 and £25 costs
Feb 77 Handling stolen goods, possessing documents with intent to deceive and unlawful possession of shotgun Croydon Crown Court five prison sentences all suspended. Fined £2250, £3500 compensation and £1000 costs.
Mar 79 Stealing electricity Malling Mags Ct fined £250
Oct 81 Smuggling a Magnum handgun Canterbury Crown Court Suspended 18 mths prison sentence and £2500 fine.
April 83 Police search Noye's home for missing lorry which had been loaded with shoes nothing found.
Dec 85 Murder of PC John Fordham Old Bailey acquitted
Aug 86 Handling of gold from Brinks Mat robbery Old Bailey jailed for 14 years (released 1994).
99 International Fugitive Spain Extradited
Apr 00 Murder of Stephen Cameron Old Bailey Sentenced to life in prison
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| Quote: | 'Presiding in the East',
'Worshipful Master' Kenny Noye...
The life of Kenneth Noye has been one of malevolence and corruption. It is an example of how someone eagerly embracing crime as a profession can accumulate enormous wealth and frightening power.
Detectives untangling his network of corruption now believe that at least one prominent MP was in his pay.
Such was the apprehension and nervousness created by the extent of Noye's corruption of the police that during the investigation into Stephen Cameron's murder officers were given around-the-clock protection from their colleagues. Others changed their telephone numbers. The Noye file on the case was restricted to less than a dozen senior officers.
In 1977 after being arrested by Scotland Yard for receiving stolen goods Noye joined the Hammersmith Freemason's Lodge in west London. He was proposed and seconded by two Police Officers. He eventually rose to be the Master of the Lodge with the support of the membership of which the Police made up a sizeable proportion. Other Masons included dealers in gold and other precious metals. A little while later Noye was being helped out of an arrest by a detective who was a fellow Mason.
One of Noye's police contacts was prepared to intervene on his behalf not just with fellow officers, but other law agencies. The detective approached a Customs officer investigating Noye in the early 80s and pressured him to "lay off".
April 13, 2000
The Independent, U.K.
By Kim Sengupta and Paul Lashmar
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As a result of a number of scandals involving Freemasons in the Judicial System in Great Britain TWO successive British Governments - one Conservative and the other Labour have conducted THREE formal inquiries on the extent of corruption and malfiesience BY Freemasons in the Judicial System and in Municipal Government.
The Government Inquires concluded that Freemasonry was having a negative effect on the Justice System in the United Kingdom and recomended that Freemasonry be made a Declarable Interest and that all Freemasons publically register if they are Judges, Police Officers, Magistrates, Prosecutors, Crown Officers, Prison Guards, or Parole Officers.
Regretably many Freemasons in Britain have chosen to arrogantly ignore the wishes of two democratically elected governments by voluntarily coming forward. It would seem that the analysis of Freemasons and Freemasonry given by Stephen Knight and Martin Short, that they consider themselves beyond the law, is proving to be depressingly accurate.
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Buttersworth Lexis Nexis Direct
http://macdonald.butterworths.co.uk/news/GetArticle.asp?NewsID=1736
Freemasons plan to seek a judicial review of Government policy to force them to declare their membership if they work in the police or criminal justice service. Although the masons could argue discrimination as many other affiliations and memberships don't have to be disclosed, this would have to be weighted against the need for transparency in appointing police and judges. Richard Clayton QC, of 39 Essex Court talks to Stephen Ward ...
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| Quote: | The Economist
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Fewer on the square
Feb 28th 2002
From The Economist print edition
British freemasonry used to be feared for its power. Now it fears for its life
FOR centuries, a new freemason swore not to reveal the society's secrets on pain of having his throat cut and his tongue torn out and buried in the sand at low water. Now British freemasonry is launching a public-relations campaign to try to prove that it has nothing to hide.
Freemasons are worried. About 10,000 men in England and Wales become masons each year, but with an average age of nearly 60 among the nation's 475,000 freemasons, the brotherhood is in decline.
Although some freemasons claim that the society goes back as far as ancient Egypt, a more conventional view dates its origins to medieval cathedral-builders who carved in soft “freestone”. Known by outsiders for its peculiar clothes and handshakes, the brotherhood also has a coherent, egalitarian, set of beliefs. Men are required to believe in a “supreme being” of any creed, and to treat each other as equals, irrespective of race or class.
Around the world, freemasonry has been seen as a subversive cult, and has aroused the suspicion of rulers. Many of the men who supported the revolutions in France and America were freemasons, and the group became linked with rebellion. But in Britain, freemasons have worked hard to stay on the right side of authority, enlisting members of the aristocracy and royal family as protectors.
Arguably, they have been too successful at cultivating links with power. Since a bestselling book published in 1983 argued that freemasons exert a malign influence in public life, people have tried to force freemasons to declare themselves. So far, they have failed. In 1999, a parliamentary inquiry concluded that it could not prove that masons exert improper influence on public life.
The criminal justice system and some local councils ask that new recruits say if they are freemasons, but the drive to force those already in public life to reveal themselves has lost momentum—probably because the society has too. Chris Mullin, the Labour MP who led the parliamentary inquiry, believes that these days being a freemason is becoming a hindrance in public life rather than a help. One sign of the times is that the lodge of medical freemasons that met for years at London's St Thomas's Hospital has recently been told to convene elsewhere.
Hence the public-relations campaign. United Grand Lodge, the main governing body, has already ditched some of its more controversial rituals, to the dismay of many brethren. Now it has hired a public relations firm. In April a magazine called Masonic Quarterly will be launched, and in June freemasons will jog through London for charity, wearing T-shirts emblazoned “I am a freemason.” United Grand Lodge wants to draw attention to freemasons' donations to non-masonic charities.
United Grand Lodge will find it difficult to reverse the fall in membership. The average initiate is in his late 40s, according to John Hamill, the lodge's head of communications, and, as recruitment falls and old members die off, the number of freemasons in Britain is shrinking. Young people work longer hours and modern women, it seems, resent their partners spending their evenings at men-only clubs. The PR campaign may, of course, succeed in making the whole thing sound less spooky; but if the air of conspiracy surrounding freemasonry dissipates, the society may find it has lost its main attraction.
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| Quote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1256901.stm
General Medical Council members have been forced to reveal whether they are freemasons.
And their details have now been published on a register of interests, which is open to public scrutiny.
There had been accusations that the General Medical Council (GMC) was adversely influenced by freemasonry and that this could be interfering with justice during their conduct cases.
There were even concerns raised that freemason doctors appearing before the GMC might have tried to use their connections to get the cases against them dropped, particularly at the early stages.
But the register, which also includes details of political parties members belong to and any consultancies they work for, has revealed there are only four freemasons within their 104 strong membership.
The register lists Sir Sandy Macara, the former British Medical Association (BMA) chair; Dr Simon Fradd, a negotiator for the BMA's GPs' committee; Dr Ronald Zeegen, a consultant physician and gastroenterologist and lay member Mr James Campbell Morton as freemasons.
The GMC voted for the register after growing internal and external pressure to include freemasonry in the register of members interests.
Within a few weeks the GMC will also name any of their senior staff executives who are freemasons.
There were concerns that the council could not be considered to be fully transparent without this.
Transparency
A spokeswoman for the GMC said publishing the register would answer criticisms against them that they were not being open enough.
"We gave an undertaking in the interests of transparency and openness to publish a register of members interests and we have now done so."
Dr Richard Coleman, a GP and ex-GMC member, first raised concerns about freemasonry a number of years ago.
He told BBC News Online that in the past there had been concerns that freemasonry connections could have played a part in influencing the outcome in one particular case.
But Dr Coleman was very clear that he was not referring to any decision made by any of the freemasons named in this register.
He said that by being open and transparent the GMC was distancing itself from any imagined or real criticism.
"I was unhappy about one particular case. I was concerned that one component did involve freemasonry.
"Because it is secret it did not rule out the possibility that there was some bias."
Dr Coleman said Lord Woolf had made it clear that anyone involved in a judicial capacity must declare whether they are freemasons - he said the GMC now complied with this.
GMC member Dr Krishna Korlipara, a GP in Bolton, said publishing the list would show they were transparent and above board.
"I have always been an advocate for openness and transparency and that people should declare anything that could be seen as a conflict of interest.
"I think this is an excellent idea. Now it is all in the open and no body can argue that the members are not acting perfectly honourably," he said.
Fellow GMC member Dr Surendra Kumar, a GP in Widnes, said: "I think in the current climate of transparency it is absolutely vital that one declares one's interests."
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The Indepedent
Police 'grasses' face new curbs
By Sophie Goodchild, Home Affairs Correspondent
20 May 2001
The growing power of police informers, many of them hardened criminals, has led to a ban on secret backhanders and a clampdown on soft jail terms in exchange for information.
In future, "grasses" must pay tax on their fees which previously went undeclared and agree to their names being placed a special register.
The clampdown follows a government investigation into the relationship between the police and informers, who have in the past included such gangland figures as Kenneth Noye, the road-rage murderer of Stephen Cameron. Noye had a long career as an informer and collected large sums for pointing police in the direction of villains many of whom were rivals he simply wanted out of the way.
Another gangland figure to benefit from the informer system was Curtis Warren, whose criminal empire was so vast that he was dubbed "Target One" by Interpol. However, a case against him was dropped because his co-accused, Brian Charrington, was a valuable police informer.
Warren is now in jail but only after making an estimated £180m from drug dealing.
Customs routinely pay up to £1,000 per kilo of heroin or cocaine recovered and payments of £250,000 or more are relatively common to informers. This is considered a worthwhile investment in return for the number of man hours saved on investigations.
The practice of early release for prisoners who have informed on criminal gangs, under special pardon known as the Royal Prerogative of Mercy, is to be curbed. It is thought that many informers take advantage of such deals to commit fresh crimes.
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Tycoon Black now Lord of Crossharbour
Renounced Canadian citizenship for British upper house seat
November 1, 2001
Kevin Ward
CANADIAN PRESS
LONDON -- He is no longer plain Conrad Black -- instead just call him Lord Black of Crossharbour.
The newspaper magnate formally took his seat and title in the House of Lords yesterday, completing a circuitous route to the upper chamber of the British Parliament made possible this summer when he gave up his Canadian citizenship.
Black was not available to discuss his introduction to the Lords, which was supported by former prime minister Baroness Margaret Thatcher and one-time Conservative foreign secretary Lord Carrington.
Lord Black's first speech -- by tradition on a non-controversial topic -- comes later.
The 57-year-old was put forward for a seat among the unelected Lords by former Tory party leader William Hague, with his name included in a list of appointments for 1999.
The Canadian government initially said it had no objections to Black becoming a lord, provided he did not use the title in Canada and that he became a British citizen, which he did in June, 2000.
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Name choice like that chosen earlier by newspaper baron Lord Thompson of Fleet
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Shortly after Black was named to the British upper chamber, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien stepped in and invoked a rarely used power that bars Canadians from receiving foreign titles. That blocked the media baron from accepting the lifelong peerage.
Black filed suit but lost his two-year fight against the decision before the Ontario Court of Appeal this year. The appeal court upheld Chrétien's right to advise the Queen in 1999 not to make Black a British lord. Earlier, Ontario Superior Court had dismissed Black's claim that the Prime Minister abused his power and acted in a negligent fashion when his office kept Black from being named a British lord.
Black announced he would renounce his Canadian citizenship in May, which cleared the way for his lordship.
The chairman and chief executive officer of Hollinger Inc., Black has sold most of its Canadian newspapers, including the National Post, a national broadsheet he started in Toronto three years ago, to CanWest Global Communications, owned by Izzy Asper. The Post has yet to post a profit.
When the Queen confirmed his appointment in September, Black told Britain's Hollinger-owned Daily Telegraph: "The Lords is a uniquely talented House of Parliament, and it is a fascinating time in the history of Britain," he told the newspaper he indirectly controls through Hollinger. "This is, therefore, a particularly great honour."
Black has not stated a party affiliation yet, but given his sponsorship by the Conservatives, he is most likely to sit as a Tory.
He follows in the footsteps of two of Canada's great newspaper owners who sat in the Lords: Maxwell William Henry Aitken, who became Lord Beaverbrook; and Kenneth Roy Thomson, known as Lord Thomson of Fleet.
Though unavailable to explain why he choose to be Lord Black of Crossharbour, he appears, like Thomson, to have used a London place name with connections to the newspaper industry.
Once home to Britain's leading national dailies, newspapers have abandoned Fleet Street for newer buildings at Canary Wharf, where the Daily Telegraph is based. Crossharbour is in Canary Wharf.
Documents obtained under the Access to Information Act in Canada this week show Chrétien spent $170,000 in taxpayers' money battling Black in the courts.
Black was ordered by the Ontario Court of Appeal to pay an undisclosed sum to cover some of the government's legal costs. The exact amount has not yet been set.
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| Quote: | Minister drops military block on Freemasonry
The Independent - United Kingdom
April 2, 2001
BY PAUL WAUGH DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR
A GOVERNMENT MOVE to prevent Freemasons from recruiting among members of the armed forces has been blocked after claims that it contravenes the European Convention on Human Rights.
The Ministry of Defence issued a little-known order in 1999 banning the "encouragement or promotion" of membership of the secretive organisation within the navy, army and air force.
However, John Spellar, the Armed Forces minister, has now withdrawn the guidance after the Freemasons threatened legal action, claiming it would undermined their privacy under the European Convention.
The decision comes as the Home Office's own plans to create a compulsory register of Freemasons in police forces are likely to be dropped in the face of similar challenges under European law.
The legal challenge also highlights the Masons' decision to be more aggressive in promoting their cause. Last month they hired a public relations firm to bolster their image.
The MoD order, titled the Joint Service Defence Council Instruction 88/00, stated there was "no intention or policy to preclude Service personnel from membership of any lawful and benevolent organisation". But it warned: "Involvement in organisations of a secretive nature, such as the Freemasons" could undermine the unifying ethos of the Forces.
Membership "carries with it the risk of establishing disparate loyalties which may have a destabilising influence on the chain of command, not least by the perception of preferential treatment and undue influence", the order said.
Serving personnel were not to promote membership among colleagues, hold Masons' meetings on MoD premises or do anything "to further the aims of the organisation", it added.
In a written parliamentary answer, Mr Spellar said he had authorised the temporary withdrawal of the order pending a review "as a result of concerns that the MoD's policy towards membership of societies such as Freemasons might not be fully compliant with the European Convention on Human Rights".
A spokeswoman for the MoD said it had received a legal challenge from the organisation. She said the ministry stood by its belief that membership of a secretive group could undermine unity in the armed forces but the policy would have to be reviewed.
Gordon Prentice, the Labour MP for Pendle, who asked Mr Spellar the parliamentary question, has put down further questions to discover who exactly had complained to the MoD. "I think the European Convention is being used as a cover to say individual rights are being undermined. They are not. It's all about progress for greater openness and transparency. The idea that the MoD premises should be used for Freemasons' lodge meetings beggars belief," he said.
The Home Office set up a voluntary register of Freemasons for the police, judiciary and magistracy, but to date just 36.6 per cent of police officers have responded and of those only 1.1 per cent said that they were members.
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| Quote: | The Times
Saturday April 21 2001
New evidence that Hess died in Britain
BY MICHAEL EVANS
THE conspiracy theory that Rudolf Hess was not the man who died in jail in Berlin in 1987 has been revived.
A new book claims that there is evidence that Hitler’s deputy died in a plane crash a year after flying to Britain in 1941 to sue for peace with members of the Establishment. The man who was found guilty of war crimes at Nuremberg and spent the rest of his life in Spandau prison is said to have been a double planted by the British secret service. Lynn Picknet, Clive Prince and Stephen Prior, the authors of Double Standards: The Rudolf Hess Cover-up, claim to have evidence that Hess was killed while flying with the Duke of Kent over Wales in 1942.
Yesterday the Public Record Office released more material supporting the official line, covering Hess’s illness in 1970. However, the book backs the view of Hugh Thomas, a former army surgeon posted to Berlin in 1973 who examined the prisoner and became convinced that he was not Hess.
Additional
What Really Happened to Rudolph Hess?
http://www.eyespymag.com/intv.html
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| Quote: | Sunday Telegraph
April 15, 2001
Sunday Comment: Freemasons' shocking secret
By Andrew Roberts
Does a freemason have the right to keep his membership of the craft secret? The Welsh Assembly thinks not and insists that its members declare whether they are also freemasons. Freemasons believe they are being discriminated against by the assembly and are even considering prosecuting it under the Human Rights Act.
They certainly should do so. It is a touch hypocritical for Welsh politicians, of all people, to denounce masons as a conspiratorial group of people who are out to help their own, but this question does go to the heart of a Briton's right to privacy and to keep secrets. As a former mason myself, I am convinced of their right to be left alone.
Soon after I left university, I was approached to join a rather grand lodge, whose romantic name I will not reveal in case - as the regulations stipulate - my guts are cut out of my still-living body and buried in the sand of a beach at low-tide. I had rather assumed that freemasonry was a dangerous conspiracy against the public, and had heard the usual rumours about how it subverted the democratic and legal processes. I was therefore tremendously keen to join, and duly underwent all the ceremonies necessary to become a full and active mason.
These were certainly very impressive indeed, both visually and in terms of the complex ritual, but for the sake of my gizzard I will not describe them either. Most impressively for me, as I strapped on my social crampons to start mountaineering my way up the foothills of London society, was the fact that my lodge contained precisely the sort of people without whom any decent conspiracy against the public would be doomed to failure. We had a serving cabinet minister, a brace of peers, two (rather terrifying) judges, a banker, a permanent under-secretary from an important department of the Civil Service, and the secretary-general of a very important institution. Furthermore, we regularly entertained senior policemen as guests from brother lodges. The lack of generals led me to assume that ours would be a civil rather than military coup.
Here, I thought, was the perfect opportunity to be at the very heart of a kind of British version of the infamous P2 lodge which so destabilised Italian democracy in the Seventies and Eighties, as it secretly amassed power for its shadowy members. All set for dark conspiracies, I learnt the (very difficult) mumbo-jumbo as I moved up the hierarchy from one position to the next, with the august position of Grand Master always in my sights.
It took some time before I came to realise that British freemasonry was worlds away from the continental variety, and that far from subverting the constitution, all these eminent and personable men wanted to do was to spend an evening a few times a year in friendly company away from their wives. The talk covered all the normal subjects of gentlemanly discourse from Fifties' clubland: Test match prospects, newly-published books, where to eat on holiday in France and Italy, West End plays they had seen recently, the odds on having better summer weather than last year's, and so on. They were all very charming and decent people, but not out to take over the country (they already ran it anyway) , so I made my excuses and left.
The emphasis on fund-raising for good causes is just that; there are no ulterior purposes. The wealth of the masons is distributed to worthwhile charities, not used in nefarious ways to advance freemasonry. Nor is the institution in any sense anti-Christian, as has been alleged. "The Great Architect of the Universe" is very clearly the Christian God, and the two senior Church of England clergymen in my lodge would certainly not have remained in the craft on any other basis.
A society with secrets, as opposed to a secret society, whose objects are charity and congeniality, ought not to be subjected to state interference. Rather than becoming more open, and even appointing a public relations director as it has, freemasonry should now instead become more secretive in order to protect their "brothers of the square" from the illiberal demands of the Welsh Assembly.
If a mason standing for the Welsh Assembly does not wish publicly to acknowledge his membership for fear of his chances of election being compromised through public ignorance and misconceptions surrounding the craft, he ought not to be forced to do so. As Jasper Ridley's excellent history The Freemasons points out, the craft has survived the persecutions of centuries, including the ferocity of the Nazis and Communists. Victorious over them, it should now stand up to the petty tyrannies of Cardiff.
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Tired of being 'mugged' by the media, the United Grand Lodge of England has appointed a PR agency to improve the image of freemasonry. But can the spin doctors allay suspicions that the secretive organisation is pulling strings in the police and judiciary? Stephen Moss reports
Wednesday March 21, 2001
The Guardian
You're not going to mug us, are you?" asks Chris Connop, spokesman for the United Grand Lodge of England. He is evidently worried on this point, as he asks the question half a dozen times. He also looks suspicious when the photographer starts grovelling around on the floor of the grand temple at Freemasons Hall, an art deco masterpiece in central London and the masons' HQ. "I don't like being photographed from below," he explains. "It makes me look sinister." The photographer becomes agitated and utters an expletive, which may be the first swearword ever uttered in freemasonry's most hallowed hall.
Connop is paranoid because mugging has become an occupational hazard for freemasons. He is fuming over Monday's Newsnight, which made great play of the bizarre initiation rites undertaken by aspiring masons, and by an article by the son of a mason in the Independent portraying freemasonry as "the perfect hobby for bored middle-aged men engaged in undemanding jobs who hanker for a faintly exotic social life".
The freemasons hope this is the dark media hour just before a golden dawn. They are tired of being traduced, and have appointed a PR agency called MDA to re-present them to a doubting public. The doubts have been put most forcibly by Martin Short, author of The Brotherhood, who argues that the heavy concentration of masons in the law and the police force perverts justice. "Can all the rituals be merely symbolic?" asks Short. "One must presume that people join lodges predominantly to feather their own nests, and to form a loose combination against the interests of everybody who is not a mason."
Short did battle on Newsnight with Mike Dewar, head of MDA and a former colonel whose 30 years in the army has left its mark in the way he describes everything in military terms. He is preparing a campaign on behalf of freemasonry; it will be a battle, and initially the masons may have to take some flak, but a couple of years on he reckons our ideas of freemasonry - and our presumption that it is secretive, sinister and self-interested - will have been changed.
"The freemasons feel defensive at the moment," says the brisk, pinstripe-suited Dewar. "They feel they've been pressured. They've been attacked and vilified for so long that every reaction is a defensive reaction - 'No, we're not going to do that; as a matter of principle we won't publish lists of members.' I hope that in two years' time, when this campaign starts to be successful, they'll be a lot less sensitive about that sort of thing. They're not per se secretive about being a mason; in fact they're happy to sing about it, and that's what I'm encouraging them to do."
Dewar is not a mason and says he prefers not to know what goes on at initiation ceremonies (sharp instruments placed against bared breasts, silken nooses placed around the heads of initiates). "I couldn't care a damn what the ceremony is," he says. "That's not what's important. What is important is that these people are extremely good people; well-meaning, upright people with high moral standards. They are a fraternal society whose aim is to make good men better, and their achievements speak for themselves. They collect massive sums of money for charity - £17m last year - and most of the money goes to non-masonic charities."
Others have been less willing to ignore the rituals that are an integral part of freemasonry. In 1996, in an article in this paper, Short attacked the penalties which he said initiates agreed to accept if they transgressed against a brother mason: "having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by the root and buried in the sand of the sea at low water mark". And that, said Short, was only the penalty for "first-degree" masons, the so-called entered apprentices in their Persil-white aprons. Second-degree (or fellowcraft) transgressors faced having their hearts "torn from their breasts and fed to ravenous birds", while third-degree (or master mason) miscreants faced the ultimate penalty, being severed in two, their bowels burned to ashes, and those ashes "scattered over the face of the earth and wafted by the four winds of heaven."
Short, however, had not been reading the extremely useful Freemasons' Diary, which explains that these hideous penalties have fallen into disuse. "When masonic ritual was developing in the late 1600s and 1700s," it explains soothingly, "it was quite common for legal and civil oaths to include physical penalties, and freemasonry simply followed the practice of the times. After long discussion, they were removed from the promises in 1986."
I asked for clarification from Jim Daniel, grand secretary of the United Grand Lodge. "The physical penalties, which were always only symbolic, were removed from the obligations in 1986," he says. "They were not replaced, so that a candidate still makes his obligation in the certain knowledge that he will be 'branded as a wilfully perjured individual void of all moral worth and totally unfit to be received into this worshipful lodge or any other warranted lodge or society of men who prize honour and virtue above the external advantages of rank and fortune' if he violates his obligation." So no ravenous birds or ritual disembowelling, but you certainly won't be welcome at lodge suppers.
The rest of the ritual remains intact, and the masonic diary defends it as a "shared experience which binds the members together", posing a crucial question to itself in its Q&A explanation of freemasonry - "Why do grown men run around with their trousers rolled up." Its answer is unembarrassed: "It is true that candidates have to roll up their trouser legs during the three ceremonies when they are being admitted to membership. Taken out of context this can seem amusing, but like other aspects of freemasonry, it has a symbolic meaning." (Irritatingly, it doesn't explain what it symbolises.)
Masons are sensitive to the charge that they owe their primary allegiance to their "craft". "Freemasons do not swear allegiances to each other or to freemasonry," says my masonic diary. "Freemasons promise to support others in times of need, but only if that support does not conflict with their duties to God, the law, their family or with their responsibilities as a citizen."
Connop becomes agitated at the suggestion that masons would put their masonic commitments before their worldly duties. "We are not allowed to go around giving masonic signals [there are secret handshakes, passwords and signs] outside a masonic context, because if we did we could be thrown out," he insists. "I'm a magistrate and if I were sitting as a magistrate and somebody tried to give me one of the degree signs, I would say immediately what was going on if I was in the chair. If not, I would say to the chairman, 'I'm sorry but this defendant is trying to gain advantage by his membership of freemasonry,' and I would retire from the bench and not hear that case. That is outrageous. That is not what we stand for."
The hardest thing for an outsider to grasp is what freemasonry is actually for. Connop, who is a member of no fewer than 13 lodges, supplies a one-word answer: "fun". He enjoys the ritual, and opens his mason's case to show us his numerous medals, aprons and masonic ties. He is heading off that evening to the lodge of which he is master to "make a mason" - induct an apprentice into the craft - and is palpably looking forward to it, rehearsing the lines which form part of ceremony. He values the moral compass that freemasonry provides in his life and is moved when he shows us the masonic artefacts that soldiers carried with them in the first world war, but above all he wants to stress the enjoyment and sense of fellowship he derives from being part of the organisation.
The Real Secrets of Freemasonry, a guide to the craft prepared by Worshipful Brother George Gibson in 1945 and much reprinted since, takes a more moralistic stance. "Freemasonry is an organised system of morality . . . derived from divine wisdom and age-long experience, which for preservation from outer assault and inner decay is veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols. It preaches the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man. The influence of divine inspiration is with it throughout. Each Candidate for membership declares his belief in the Supreme Being: keeping strictly aloof from political divisions, it demands from its members a recognition of the eternal and of the light which comes from above."
So what is the essence of freemasonry? Material self-advancement and sinister secrecy, say its critics. Fun, fellowship and a moral code, masons counter. Dewar, who hopes to reverse the decline that has seen membership in England and Wales fall to 320,000, intends to present them as "good, solid citizens with the right moral values who support all that is good in society". But there are two other factors which must surely be considered - food and stamp collecting.
The editor of The Square, "the independent magazine for freemasons", devotes his editorial in this month's issue to the important question: "To eat or not to eat". "Any masonic group which sought to eliminate my choice of whether I dine or not can do without my presence," he thunders in a vigorous defence of the "festive board" against the "Nazis of the masonic world" who want it reduced or eliminated. It is, he explains, "one of the big topics of conversation in masonic circles". What does Martin Short think of that?
I also scanned the small ads in The Square for sinister cabals looking for masons to join their ranks. The Logic Ritual Association, the Goose and Gridiron Society, the London Lunchtimers, the International Masonic Poetry Society . . . bodies to make the flesh creep. And, scariest of all, the Masonic Philatelic Club, based in Cleveland, "open only to masons in good standing of the English Constitution and recognised Grand Lodges". There is an article in The Square about the stamps of Belgium (remarkably, it is part four in a series on Belgian stamps). I assume that encoded within these apparently innocent words on Belgian politician-freemasons is a sinister message to the philatelists of Cleveland. You have been warned.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=61602
If you want to meet dodgy car dealers, join the Masons
'Masonry offers bored, middle-aged men the opportunity for a faintly exotic social life'
By DJ Taylor
20 March 2001
A pretty sure sign that some timeworn national institution has its collective back to the wall comes in its eagerness not only to engage a public relations adviser but to make a point of telling the world that it has done so. The Church of England, the Women's Institute, Penthouse magazine... the number of staid-sounding and backward-looking organisations that have followed this route in recent years is so large that Freemasonry's decision to appoint a PR strategist seems seriously belated. The wonder is that the planners at Freemasons' Hall, in central London's Great Queen Street, didn't think of it sooner.
According to John Hamill, the United Grand Lodge's director of communications (the idea of Freemasonry having a "director of communications"), "we have been out of the public view and that has allowed a mythology to grow. We need to get back into the public consciousness in a proper way". The man chosen to do the job, a certain Mike Dewar of the public relations company MDA, has admitted to early prejudice, lately overcome. "They've had a bad time" he gamely concludes, "and maybe some of that has been deserved, but they are intrinsically a very good organisation. Their motto is to 'make good men better' and they gave £17 million to charity last year."
It is worth pointing out, of course, that Masonic charity is dispensed to Freemasons and their dependents, but you can see Mr Dewar's point. In terms of its membership requirements - not much more than a belief in God - Freemasonry is a deeply innocuous activity. It is only the paraphernalia of rolled trouser-legs and breast-baring that renders it comic and sinister by turns. And yet to read these accounts of how the public and press will now be welcomed into the organisation's lodges and invited to chat to its members ("Now this is Mr Jones, he's our Principal Sojourner, Barry here is the Tiler...") was to be swept back 30 years to a room in my parents' house in Norwich, with the darkness sweeping in across the garden and the sound of the tea-things being cleared away beyond the door, where I would test my father on his Masonic ritual.
Why my father let me assist in this grave and awful pursuit - strictly against the rules, it goes without saying - I don't know. Perhaps he assumed that its significance would simply escape me. He was right; most of its significance did escape me. What remains is a jumble of pseudo-biblical stuff about the Ark of the Covenant and the responsibilities of the Master Mason ("What is the first duty of the Master Mason?" my father would solemnly enquire as I waved the book out of his reach) in which dad featured as an entity named "Scribe Ezra". Scribe Ezra! Even to my youthful and sympathetic gaze it seemed to me that Freemasonry, once you took away the spiritual garnishes, was a fine excuse for a gang of middle-aged men to wine and dine themselves at festive boards, ladies' nights and other entertainments.
Oddly enough, though, Freemasonry was both more and less than this vision of steaming dishes and my father carolling his way through the Worshipful Master's Song. The charitable angle is definitely true. Should you be the widow of a Master Mason living in reduced circumstances, then an almoner will be happy to pay your electricity bill and, if necessary, arrange your transfer into a Masonic nursing home. The popular impression of a cabal of cigar-smoking businessmen all doing each other favours and passing bunches of fivers beneath the festive board I could never quite swallow. Certainly my father knew wealthy and influential Masons - a bishop here, a shipping tycoon there, a self-made local millionaire whose bath taps were popularly supposed to be made of gold - but their largesse stayed undistributed. Indeed, the only time dad consciously opted to use the Masonic network and bought a car off a dealer who happened to be "on the Square", it turned out to have a floor composed mostly of cardboard.
So why become a Freemason? Certainly not to immerse yourself in a career-enhancing social network (in fact the organisation does get fairly grand at senior level - its Grand Master, for example, is the Duke of Kent, and dad often talked darkly of the sinister forces that had conspired to "do him out of Grand Rank". The food, though occasionally lavish, is probably inferior to most restaurants. There is not even the lure of a "secret" - anyone who wants to learn the essentials of the craft can pick up most of it from Peter's initiation in War and Peace.
In the end I can only go back to my mother's explanation. This, based on four decades of attendance at ladies' nights, is that Freemasonry provides the perfect hobby for bored, middle-aged men engaged in undemanding jobs who hanker for a faintly exotic social life. Such people are not perhaps as common as they once were. Hence the guided tours of Grand Lodge, the promotional videos and - presumably - the chance to view Scribe Ezra intoning on into the darkness.
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Have police finally solved the mystery of Noye's missing Brink's-Mat gold?
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
09 February 2001
At 6.30 on the morning of Saturday 26 November 1983, six armed robbers slipped into the Brink's-Mat high security warehouse in Heathrow, posing as relief guards. They immediately ripped off the uniform of a genuine security officer, doused him in petrol, and threatened to set him alight unless he told them the combination of the vaults containing gold. Another guard was coshed then punched in the stomach as he lay on the floor.
The gang took from the vault 6,800 Mars-bar-sized ingots of gold, weighing three tons, 1,000 carats in diamonds, platinum and travellers' cheques, a total of £26,369,778, the biggest haul in British criminal history.
Since then an army of police and private investigators has scoured the world in a quest to return the missing millions to their rightful owners. Several robbers, smelters, and their fences have been jailed and forced to pay compensation in out-of-court settlements for the loss, the whereabouts of the vast bulk of the gold remained a mystery. Until yesterday, only a handful of ageing cons knew the hiding place of an estimated £10m worth of ingots.
But in an extraordinary twist to the saga of the missing Brink's-Mat bullion, 30 officers from Scotland Yard's Flying Squad yesterday began digging up the concrete floor of a warehouse in Hastings on the south coast of England.
Equally sensationally, the suspected "owner" of the gold cache is Kenneth Noye, Britain's former most wanted criminal, now serving a life sentence for the M25 "road rage" murder of Stephen Cameron.
Noye was convicted of handling gold from the robbery, served eight years of a 14-year sentence and was released in 1994. He paid £3m to the loss adjusters in an out-of-court settlement but the police have always suspected that the master criminal had far than that still stashed from the robbery.
The Independent understands that in the last week detectives from the Met's robbery squad obtained information about Noye's share of the gold being buried at R Winchester and Co Timber yard.
Yesterday morning officers in blue police overalls turned up at the yard on the Graystone Lane, off Old London Road, with X-ray imaging equipment, a mechanical digger, and a pneumatic drill. After a detailed search among the stacks of timber two officers started digging in the centre of one of the buildings. They expect the gold hunt to take several days, even months.
The dramatic development is typical of a crime whose ramifications have continued for more than a decade. The police were quickly onto the gang responsible for the heist, described at the time as the "crime of the century".
Only days later, detectives latched on to Tony Black, the last guard to arrive on the morning of the robbery, 10 minutes late to work. He quickly confessed that he had provided inside information and a duplicate key. He identified three of the team as his brother-in-law Michael McAvoy, Brian Robinson, known as "The Colonel", and Tony White.
In December 1984 Robinson and McAvoy were jailed for 25 years each, and White was acquitted. Black got six years.
That still left a lot of villains at large and an extraordinary amount of gold. The bullion was in marked ingots of extremely high quality and could not be offered to legitimate dealers because it would be recognised immediately. Instead it was being smelted by a small firm, Scadlynn, on the outskirts of Bristol.
The gold was being delivered it in small parcels to London. Police believe that half was sold back to legitimate dealers, including Johnson Matthey, to whom it had belonged in the first place. Much of it ended up as expensive jewellery. The rest, believed to be worth more than £10m, was buried. A small amount of the gold has been recovered. Eleven bars were found in 1985 and a further £1m worth was retrieved from the Bank of England where it was being stored after re-entering the legal market.
The police quickly turned their attention to Noye, a well-known gold smuggler and notorious criminal. But a surveillance operation against him ended in disaster. An undercover police officer, John Fordham, clad in a balaclava helmet and surveillance overalls, was stabbed to death in the grounds of Noye's spacious home in West Kingsdowne in Kent, which was also guarded by two rottweilers Noye had named Brink's and Mat.
Noye, charged with murder, told a jury: "I just froze with horror. All I saw when I flashed my torch on this masked man was the two eye-holes and the mask. I thought I was going to be a dead man". He had stabbed the officer 11 times.
In November 1985, Noye was cleared of murder, claiming self defence. But eight months later he was jailed for 14 years for laundering the stolen bullion, along with his friend Brian Reader and Garth Chappell, a Scadlynn director. Reader was sentenced to nine years and Chappell to 10.
The following year the police turned their attention to the multi-millionaire John Palmer. Part of the haul from the robbery was found to have been melted down in a furnace at Mr Palmer's mansion in Bath. He was eventually charged with conspiring with Noye and Readers to handle the bullion, but he was acquitted and returned to Tenerife to continue his timeshare business.
John Fleming, nicknamed "Goldfinger", from south London, who fled to Spain, Costa Rica then Florida, was also accused of handling the stolen gold. He was freed in 1987 after a London magistrate threw out the case.
Once When the police and courts had done all they could with the available evidence, private investigators got to work. Lloyd's of London, the insurance market that paid out for the stolen gold, appointed investigators, Robert Bishop & Co, and offered a £2m reward for information leading to convictions and recovery of the missing millions.
Much of the cash from the bullion haul had entered the banking system, wending its way through a web of accounts. Other money was invested in property in Britain and Spain, which has mushroomed in value. The private eyes and financial experts were able to trace the money and, using the lower standards of proof in civil courts plus the added threat to seize assets, they have managed to force an estimated 25 people linked to the robbery to pay back £17m.
Noye was among those who paid up rather than face a civil case. Investigators tracked down £2.8m in bank accounts in Britain and Ireland. Noye agreed to the cash settlement after facing a High Court action over assets linked to the robbery. His payback was estimated to be about £3m. At least one other defendant has agreed to hand back more than Noye.
After the civil action it appeared that the Brink's-Mat trail had finally gone cold.
That was until Noye again burst into the news when he went on the run for the murder of Stephen Cameron, 21, who was stabbed to death in May 1996 on the M25 near Swanley in Kent following a road rage incident. Noye was eventually tracked down to his new life in Spain and brought to trial at the Old Bailey. In April last year the 53-year-old was sentenced to life for murder.
After he started serving his sentence in a high-security prison, rumours linking him with the missing bullion became hot gossip within the underworld. Prompted by this new-found celebrity, the Flying Squad began to investigate him again.
Noye is appealing against his murder conviction.
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Davidson's charity honour
Entertainer Jim Davidson has been made an OBE for his charity work.
The 47-year-old Generation Game host and keen Conservative supporter has spent much of his career travelling around the world to perform for British troops.
In 1998 he set up the British Forces Foundation to raise money to fund forces' entertainment.
Davidson makes much of his roots in south-east London. He was brought up in Kidbrooke, and his old school was just around the corner from his favourite football team, Charlton Athletic.
At the age of 12, he made his showbusiness debut telling jokes in a gang show at the Golders Green Hippodrome, north London - but failed in an audition for the part of the Artful Dodger in the film Oliver!
One Sunday he was in a pub in Woolwich were the regular stand-up comic hadn't turned up. Egged on by friends, he took to the stage, and he never looked back.
In 1976 he won the New Faces talent show on ITV, which got him his own show, The Jim Davidson Show.
Sitcoms Home James and Up The Elephant And Round The Castle followed in the 1980s, while his "adult" pantomimes and comedy tours were equally successful.
In the 1990s he moved to the BBC, and took on the reins of the long-running Generation Game in 1995, which continues to this day.
But off-screen many found his humour, honed in London's pubs and clubs, offensive - although Davidson, a leading Freemason, has denied accusations of racism and homophobia.
In October this year, he dubbed his critics "do-goody, leftie, white, socialist hybrids".
His private life has also overshadowed his career - he has been married four times, with each relationship ending amid acrimony.
He has also suffered from alcoholism, claiming recently that the years from 1971 to 1990 were just one long drinking binge.
In 2001 Davidson will mark 25 years in showbusiness with a series of one-night shows.
Earlier this year, he addressed the Conservative Party conference, receiving a rapturous reception. It had been reported that the party even wanted him to stand as a parliamentary candidate.
This Christmas his company, Effective Theatrical Productions, is producing nine pantomimes, and he is appearing in one of them, in Hammersmith, west London.
Unlike his past efforts, he promises his Dick Whittington version is fit for all the family.
Although he and his critics are unlikely ever to see eye-to-eye, Jim Davidson is showing no sign of turning back.
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The Telegraph, U.K. Straw threatens to police Masons
By Joe Murphy, Political Editor
(Filed: 05/11/2000)
POLICE officers could be forced to disclose membership of the Freemasons after a voluntary system of registration failed because it was boycotted by the rank and file.
Jack Straw, the Home Secretary, has called for talks with chief constables after only a fraction of possible Freemasons admitted belonging to the organisation. Mr Straw is now asking forces to put pressure on officers to comply otherwise he will introduce a compulsory system. The voluntary register was established in 32 of the 43 police forces in England and Wales last year. More than two-thirds of officers either did not respond or refused to answer the question.
The boycott is a set-back to Labour's long-held commitment to end the Masonic culture within the criminal justice system which many backbench MPs believe encourages police and judges to feel that they are under an obligation to fellow lodge members.
On average, only 36.6 per cent of police officers responded to letters asking them to make declarations for the register. Of those who did, 1.1 per cent declared membership of the Freemasons although the Home Office suspects that the true figure is 10 times higher. Some 9.5 per cent of the respondents refused to say whether or not they were Freemasons while nine out of 10 said they were not.
Among the judiciary 96 per cent responded, with five per cent declaring membership of the Freemasons, 89.7 per cent declaring that they were not members, and only 1.3 per cent declining to answer.
Of magistrates 88 per cent replied, five per cent declared that they were Freemasons, 80 per cent said they were not, and only 2.3 per cent refused to answer the question. Ministers recognise that compulsory registration could be challenged in the courts under the Human Rights Act.
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Other news reports, if you want them i can post them
Professor of Freemasonry to probe murky past of Masonic Brotherhood - 01/07/00
Police Ignore Voluntary Freemasons Registry, Legislation Looming: The Guardian July 29, 2000
Police defy force with Masonic lodge - 28/06/00
Survey Shows 600 Police Service Freemasons - 04/06/00
He was a master criminal and a killer. But yesterday justice caught up with Kenneth Noye - 14/04/00
How Noye was caught - 14/04/00
Noye's circle of criminal cronies - 14/04/00
Britain's Most Infamous Villain, Worshipful Master Kenny Noye - 13/04/00
Boyz In The Hood: Squall Magazine
Anything to declare?: BBC Southern Eye Investigation March 2, 2000
The world's best-known secret society - 25/11/99
Military Launches Crackdown on Freemasons in Ranks: Daily Express, June 17, 1999
The Craft: BBC May 26, 1999
New Restrictions on "Private Societies" and the Police in Northern Ireland: Britain in USA November 4, 1998
Freemasons face appointments review: BBC October 27, 1998
Association of University Teachers, New Restrictions on Freemasonry - Summer 1998
New Judges must declare Masonic Membership: BBC March 8, 1998
Freemasons - Moral Guardians or Centre of Corruption?: BBC March 5 '98
Secrecy to get a slap on the wrist: BBC February 20, 1998
Home Affairs Committee, Freemasonry - Minutes of Evidence - February 17, 1998
'Christopher'
Senior Whitehall Civil Servant and Freemason
Quoted in Stephen Knight's The Brotherhood
| Quote: | 'It is not difficult to ruin a man,' he said. 'And I will tell you how it is done time and again. There are more than half a million brethren under the jurisdiction of Grand Lodge. Standards have been falling for twenty or thirty years. It is too easy to enter the Craft, so many men of dubious morals have joined. The secrecy and power attract such people, and when they come the decent leave. The numbers of people who would never have been considered for membership in the fifties are getting larger all the time. If only five per cent of Freemasons use - abuse - the Craft for selfish or corrupt ends it means there are 25,000 of them. The figure is much closer to twelve or thirteen per cent now.'
Christopher explained that Masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff ('very useful in supplying copies of a man's mail'), doctors, government employee bosses of firms and nationalized industries etc., etc. dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masons network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining. Even decent Masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer. The 'good' Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow Mason, especially a fellow Lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft.
Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.
I asked how this 'action' might be taken.
'Solicitors are very good at it,' said Christopher. 'Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and you have him.' Solicitors, I was told, are 'past masters' at causing endless delays, generating useless paperwork, ignoring instructions, running up immense bills, misleading clients into taking decisions damaging to themselves.
Masonic police can harass, arrest on false charges, and plant evidence. 'A businessman in a small community or person in public office arrested for dealing in child ***********, for indecent exposure, or for trafficking in drugs is at the end of the line,' said Christopher. 'He will never work again. Some people have committed suicide after experiences of that kind.'
Masons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Bank can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person's drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can 'find' - In reality cause - further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled Freemasons skilled in using the 'network' it will be impossible because masonic Department of Health and Social Security and Law Society officials can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly.
'Employers, if they are Freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed or consistently passed over for promotion.'
Christopher added, 'Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men.
'Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them,' he told me. 'Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's . . . you see, I ... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in It's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them'.
'There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.'
'Christopher'
Senior Whitehall Civil Servant and Freemason
Quoted in Stephen Knight's The Brotherhood
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| Quote: | A Judicious investigation, and Short puts forward a devastating case for the prosecution...He Produces a persuasive testimony that Freemasonry has become a scourge and a disease in jobs in the public service. He cites some fascinating and entirely credible examples of Masonic Skullduggery - and of Brother ranged viciously against Brother... It is difficult to dispute Short's conclusion that disclosure of their Masonic membership by those in positions of power should be made obligatory."
Piers Brendon, The Observer
When the House of Commons Homes Affairs Committee recently recommended that police officers, magistrates, judges, and crown officers should publically register their Masonic Membership, it was very largely thanks to the ammunition provided by Martin Short's investigative tour de force. His "Inside the Brotherhood" carried on the pioneering work begun by Stephen Knight's explosive account of "The Brotherhood".
Given the nature of the subject, it is doubtful if a more conclusive book could have been written".
Alan Rushbridger, Times Literary Supplement
An anatomy of vice...I recommend it".
Mark Archer, The Spectator
On 'The Brotherhood' by Stephen Knight
What Does It Mean To Be 'On The Square?
700,000 Freemasons, all male, probably make up the largest secret society in Britain today. Who exactly are they? Why are they so incredibly secretive? Is Freemasonry a positive charitable organization which incorporates a certain amount of harmless mumbo jumbo, or does it in fact represent something more sinister?
Stephen Knight's impartial - but highly controversial - investigation addresses these vital questions and asks:
Does Freemasonry influence our police and judiciary?
Can a Christian be a Freemason?
Have the KGB penetrated the Freemasons?
Does Freemasonry lead to corruption in public life?
Freemasons are all bound to silence, but now some of them have felt impelled to break ranks and reveal part of the truth ...
'Valuable testimony... impressively researched... He most certainly has not been wasting his time'
The Observer
'Top of the list of prohibited subjects is Freemasonry... A barrier of secrecy surrounds it. It has been breached in several places by Stephen Knight... Some of my best friends are Freemasons. I wish they would read this book... a revelation'
Richard Kelly, The Guardian
'Sensational Revelations'
Daily Express
Also by Stephen Knight - Jack The Ripper: The Final Solution
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ABSOLUTELY SUBLIME, WILLOW
This will keep Mike? busy today.
Poor guy says he is unemployed.
Spends 24/7/365 protecting his
fellow masonic criminals.
Oh and he doesn't get paid under
the table. YEAH, RIGHT.
You will have donkey druid
and all of his masonic aliases
+ intelligent bondi back on your case.
This is good, keep them here.
Stops them persecuting other victims.
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| willow the wip wrote: | we can always know who masons are by the so-called masonic handshakes the reast are from media resources, you cannot just brush them off with out showing prof that they are wrong.
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Or you could look at the sign they stand infront of LOL
two points though, 1) if someone gives a "limp" handshake, my old teacher used to call it a "fish-tale" shake it will look similar. 2) its not the MM grip, drag out your Duncans monitor again and look.
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So was trhe current pope 
| willow the wip wrote: | Here is a quote from a book
| Quote: | You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations.
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Willow, would it not just be easier to post the link to Freemasonrywatch, rather than pretend this information is your own?
http://freemasonrywatch.org/britishmasons.html
It's a complete copy paste and I bet you haven't even read it all to check it is correct, factual and truth....
We can all pull out some black sheep, lets face it even the church has some real ar$es in it, and some real sick individuals who were eventually found out. |
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Mike Martin
Disinformation Peddlar or Shill
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Kent
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| willow the wip wrote: | we can always know who masons are by the so-called masonic handshakes the reast are from media resources, you cannot just brush them off with out showing prof that they are wrong.
HRH giving the Master Mason's 'Grip'...
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You're right and as you have a Duncan's and I know (cos I've got one too)it shows the MM's Grip you can see for yourself what they are doing.
| willow the wip wrote: | Here is a quote from a book
| Quote: | | You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations. |
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Again you have Duncan's so you can check for yourself.
Kenny Noye, the biggest embarrassment for Freemasonry for ages. He was expelled as soon as Grand Lodge found out about him.
With regard to the Home Affairs Select Committee Report, I would refer you to it rather than Press reports about it:
http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.com/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmhaff/467/46702.htm it makes for interesting reading.
The Overall Conclusions:
Overall conclusions
32. We repeat the point made in the previous Report: there is a great deal of unjustified paranoia about freemasonry, but freemasons, with their obsessive secrecy, are partly to blame for this. We particularly regret that it was only possible for this Committee to obtain the co-operation of Grand Lodge by compulsion. We did not do so lightly, but only after being faced with months of prevarication and obfuscation since the original requests for information by this Committee were made in the summer of 1997. As already indicated (see paragraph 13 above), a compromise involving confidentiality for the names supplied was offered and rejected. Only then did we issue an Order.
33. We are aware that many masons regret the tenacity with which their organisation clings to secrecy. More openness on the part of freemasons would not only serve the public interest, but also help to undermine the paranoia and possibly draw more attention to the non-controversial and charitable activities undertaken by freemasons.
34. We are also aware that there is a widespread belief that improper masonic influence does play a part in public life. Most of these allegations are impossible to prove. Where they can be carefully examined, they usually prove unfounded. It is clear, however, from some of the examples cited in this Report, and the previous Report, that there are cases where allegations of improper masonic influence may well be justified.
35. The solution is a simple one. It requires no bans or proscriptions, which generally have no place in a democratic society. It merely requires public servants who are members of a secret society—or "a society with secrets" as freemasons used to say—to disclose their membership. We reject the suggestion that this is an unwarranted intrusion on privacy. It is not enough for public servants to behave with integrity. They must been seen to be doing so. There is no new principle being enunciated here. Members of Parliament and of local authorities are already required to declare interests which might compromise their duties as servants of the public. All we are suggesting is a modest extension of this process.
36. We welcome the steps which the Home Office and the Lord Chancellor's Department have so far taken to require the police, members of the judiciary and others within their remit to disclose membership of freemasonry. However, progress has been slow, particularly in respect of the police, and we call for the process to be significantly speeded up, with a clear timetable set.
37. Finally we look forward to the extension of such disclosure into other areas of public life such as local authorities and Parliament.
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Bondi
Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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Location: United Kingdom
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Now if we could return to the purpose of this thread, and if people could exercise their ability to read the title of the thread.
Joe accepted this, I have no other person on this thread with me, I am quite willing to discuss with all three of you if Joe feels that is required.
Okay, so lets get started... 1st one on the list, please PROVE your claim that Freemasonry did this...
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301 - I rented a unit (on a shoestring) so that I could teach building trades. One of the first bookings was a middle class person who was linked to the FMs via a riding school. After investigation, this person wanted to bring a friend (unknown to me, this person was a health & safety officer) I would have been closed down that week as I didn’t have the funds to set it all up properly, which the Masons knew. I called this person to cancel the booking (due to imaginary problems). I can’t imagine them clearing drains.
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Middle class person linked to Freemasonry via a riding school?? So the person isn't a freemason.
So someone looked into your unit, felt it was unsafe so did the law abiding thing and got it checked out.
You openly admit that you didn't set it up properly, would of been closed down that week, which means you know you were not adhering to health and safety requirements.
Regardless of whether you would of once you had the money, you cannot open up something before it is safe.
This is not Freemasonry this is the law for every person who sets up, has an establishment for business.
Now I could probably understand if you were griping because a goody two shoes dobbed you in, but how exactly do you tie Freemasonry into this?
At most a bloke knows a Freemason.... whoopee doo... he would also know alot of other people who are members of other groups, what makes you think it is specifically Freemasonry? |
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willow the wip
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Bondi wrote: | Willow, would it not just be easier to post the link to Freemasonrywatch, rather than pretend this information is your own?
http://freemasonrywatch.org/britishmasons.html
It's a complete copy paste and I bet you haven't even read it all to check it is correct, factual and truth....
We can all pull out some black sheep, lets face it even the church has some real ar$es in it, and some real sick individuals who were eventually found out. |
Yes i actually gave the postal address to the Independant newspaper and e-mail address,
I made it clear that these are media sources that have been acumilated over time.
Bondi are you saying the BBC and the Idependant are worng ???
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