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EU TREATY: The Irish VOTED NO!!!!

 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: EU TREATY: The Irish VOTED NO!!!! Reply with quote

IRISH REFERENDUM ON EU TREATY SET FOR JUNE 12th.

VERY NB: Please check the following sites for more information:


http://www.no2lisbon.ie

http://www.pana.ie

http://www.WACIreland.org

http://www.WiseUpJournal.com

http://www.caeuc.org

http://www.irishantiwar.org/

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June 2008 will see the Irish Referendum on the new EU Treaty / Constitution. Ireland will be the only country allowed to vote on it. In the 1990's, Bilderberg were confident they would have an EU Constitution by the year 2000, but this fell apart after fierce opposition by France and the Netherlands. In 2008, however, only one country will be allowed to vote on it, essentially silencing the other EU partners.

One source has revealed to me that if Ireland votes Yes in the upcoming referendum, it will essentially give the EU carte blanche to introduce further draconian 'anti-terror' laws that will restrict our rights as EU citizens. At the moment, it is legal for the EU to hold records of phonecall numbers, but this will eventually be changed to actual recordings of our telephone conversations and email exchanges, much like the U.K.'s MI6 project "Echelon" as well as the U.S. snooping device "Carnivore" which holds their citizens emails and telephone conversations on file.

These new laws are a trojan horse - designed to restrict our freedoms, but disguised as "anti-terror" laws apparently for our safety. Please help us launch a campaign for a NO vote here in Ireland. I suggest Tony set up a new thread or perhaps an Irish language Bilderberg forum (Nationalism is what's keeping Bilderberg at bay)

Also any further details will be much appreciated.

With thanks, T.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"MEPs slam Commission freedom restraints in anti-terror name"
OUT-LAW News, 17/12/2007

Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) have criticised EU anti-terror laws for violating basic human rights. The Parliament passed a resolution condemning EU bodies and member states for passing laws which undermine rights to privacy or fair trials.

The politicians criticised the EU's executive arm the European Commission for permitting too much information to be gathered and shared too widely in the name of anti-terrorism. It said that several EU systems and the linking of them could lead to racial and ethnic profiling to identify likely suspects, which it said should be avoided.

The resolution on terrorism was passed by a small majority with 359 votes in favour, 293 against and 38 abstentions. It called for the Commission to carry out an evaluation of its policies in the light of the desired balance between security and human rights.

The Parliament vowed to conduct assessments of two policies of Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner Franco Frattini: his plan to ban bomb-making instructions from the internet and his proposals for the passenger name records (PNR) system which passes EU airline passenger details to US authorities. These two plans will be analysed "on evidence based argumentation", the MEPs said.

The MEPs called for tighter restrictions on the sharing of intelligence and on actions taken as a result of it. "Further rules are needed to ensure the necessary democratic scrutiny and parliamentary control over their activities," said a Parliament statement.

The resolution said that anti-terror laws had serious consequences. "Governments and EU institutions have often responded to terrorist attacks by adopting laws that have not been sufficiently discussed and some times in violation of basic human rights such as right to privacy or to a fair trial," it said.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Amnesty blasts EU anti-terror 'fear tactics' "

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Published: Tuesday 22 May 2007 | Updated: Friday 25 May 2007

EU governments' anti-terrorism policies are contributing to the erosion of human rights and are helping to create an increasingly polarised and dangerous world, according to Amnesty International's annual report, published on 23 May.

In Amnesty International's 2007 annual report on human rights worldwide, the group cited human rights violations across Europe, particularly in the fields of counter-terrorism, racism and discrimination, asylum and immigration.

Abusive practices in the fight against irregular immigration continued to be another major area of concern affecting many EU member states. According to Amnesty, the response has been "disappointing, showing yet again a pattern of denial".

Furthermore, the report states that the lack of long-term sustainable solutions and the "discourse of fear" that dominates political agendas have led to disturbing manifestations of racism and discrimination in Europe, a climate that encourages the stigmatisation of foreigners and suspicion of Muslims and members of other religious communities", while adversely affecting the ongoing discrimination towards Roma and encouraging the current of homophobia that is present in some countries at the highest official level, Amnesty claims, adding that the inability to solve these problems has created thousands of "second-class citizens" in Europe.

Presenting the Annual Report 2007, Amnesty International Secretary-General Irene Khan said: "Just as global warming requires global action based on international cooperation, the human rights meltdown can only be tackled through global solidarity and respect for international law."

"Europe is by no means free of these problems and the EU has no cause for complacency," said Amnesty International's EU Office Director Dick Oosting.

"Five years after 9/11 Europe still has no proper answer to the challenge of fighting terrorism while respecting rights. The complicity of European states with CIA abductions and illegal extradition amounted to a breakdown of the rule of law in Europe. "

"Almost as bad as allowing these acts to occur in Europe has been European governments' failure to recognize them and to take measures to prevent such abuses from happening again," Oosting added. "Europe betrays its values if it remains trapped in this denial. It has a leadership role to play but in order to set a credible example outside, it first needs to clean up its act at home."

But Eugeniusz Smolar, president of the Center For International Relations in Warsaw is critical of Amnesty International's stance. He told RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty : "I think that Amnesty International, in the past ten years, went the wrong way. It was a global organisation, which took care of human rights violations in every country, under every regime. And it became 'anti-Western' in the past ten years or 15 years.

And I saw it coming, because I was co-operating with Amnesty International in the 1980s, when helping with the Czech and Slovak Charter 77 movement or the Workers' Defense Committee in Poland. Now it became much more difficult to show Amnesty International the problems, for instance, in Russia."

A UK Home Office spokesman stressed the UK government's committment to "the strongest possible armoury to protect the public from terrorism".

He called EurActiv: "The Terrorism Act 2006 increased the maximum period of detention without charge of terrorist suspects from 14 days to 28 days. This increase was necessary primarily as a result of greater use of encrypted computers, the increasingly complex nature of terrorist networks and the increasingly international nature of terrorist networks meaning greater language difficulties and greater need to gather evidence from abroad.

"Furthermore, the risk to public safety from current terrorist methodology is such that it is imperative that police are able to arrest or disrupt at the earliest possible stage, or to be confident that sufficient control of the targets exists to enable the police to be satisfied that the risk is eliminated."

The spokesman for Freedom, Security and Justice Commission Vice-President Franco Frattini did not return call or email requests to comment on Amnesty's report.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Passenger data deal based on plan opposed by privacy regulator"
OUT-LAW News, 09/11/2007

The European Commission has published a plan to compel EU members to gather more information on air passengers travelling in and out of the EU in what it says is an attempt to combat terrorism.

The proposal depends on a soon-to-be adopted data sharing policy which has been opposed by Europe's privacy regulator the European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS). It has also been opposed by civil liberties campaign group Statewatch, which said that it contributed to making Europe "the most surveilled place in the world".

Since 2004 the EU has required airlines to provide to countries Advance Passenger Information (API), a limited amount of biographical information that is contained in passports. It now proposes the compulsory passing on of Passenger Name Records (PNR), a more extensive collection of information including contact details, baggage information and 'general remarks'.

The proposal would create a single state agency in every country, the Passenger Information Unit (PIU), to which airlines would have to send PNR data for everyone entering or leaving the EU. It would not be necessary for flights within the EU or within national borders.

The PIU will be responsible for processing that data and making a risk analysis or profile of people on the PNR lists. Those profiles will be retained for 13 years.

"The purpose of this proposal is to have air carriers make PNR information available to law enforcement authorities in the EU Member States and help them in the prevention and fight against terrorist offences and organised crime," said a Commission statement.

Statewatch editor Tony Bunyan said that the increased monitoring was unwarranted. "This is yet another measure that places everyone under surveillance and makes everyone a suspect without any meaningful right to know how the data is used, how it is further processed and by whom," he said. "Moreover, the profiling of all airline passengers has no place in a democracy."

The office of the European Data Protection Supervisor Peter Hustinx said that it would not issue an opinion on the proposal until early December. However, a key part of the plan rests on a separate proposal by the Commission which Hustinx does oppose.

The PNR plan says that the transfer of the data outside of the EU will be governed by a Commission framework for data protection in police matters. But the Supervisor objects to that plan, meaning he is unlikely to endorse the new airline system.

"The soon-to-be-adopted Framework Decision on Data Protection in criminal matters will govern all data processing under the proposal, as well as the transfers of data to third countries," said the Commission statement.

The transfer of data to third countries is controversial because most countries have weaker data protection systems in place than the EU.

The EDPS has previously said that data sharing should not be put in place in what the EU calls the third pillar – which covers matters such as policing, organised crime and terrorism – until an over-arching framework of data protection in that area is in place.

Hustinx previously told OUT-LAW that the deal on which the new PNR arrangement will rely was signed in the absence of those protections. "I can once again note that an instrument facilitating exchange of personal data has been adopted without the necessary framework for third pillar data protection being in place. I very much regret that," said Hustinx in June.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"We Are Change" Ireland have informed me that the right to Habeas Corpus will also be suspended if the EU treaty goes ahead. Please find out more about this group & give your support at:

http://www.WACIreland.org
http://www.WiseUpJournal.com

The have an excellent article "McCreevy exposes himself as propagandist EU servant" at:

http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=48
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this may be a long-shot, but what's the possibility of Bilderberg 2008 meeting up in Ireland? It would definitely be a first and would dovetail nicely with the EU treaty referendum the same month. I think the closest they got to before was Scotland. Any ideas?...

It's merely the take-over of democracy by a totalitarian dictatorship guys. No need to reply, but eventually the UK and Switzerland will be subsumed under the EU flag too.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MEP Mary Lou McDonald debates Bilderberger Peter Sutherland on economy and Lisbon Treaty

http://www.no2lisbon.ie/en/press-centre/entry/69
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irish Herald AM, front-page:

Dirty Tricks claims as Lisbon campaign heats up

Friday, 18th April 2008

"THE PRESIDENT of the European Commission has been attempting to convince irish voters to accept the Lisbon Treaty, amid claims Europe is withholding sensitive information on the implications of the deal until after the vote takes place.

Jose Manual Barroso addressed a plenary session of the National Forum on Europe in Dublin Castle yesterday to call for a Yes vote in the referendum on June 12. Ireland is the only country in Europe to hold a vote.

However, on the same day, a letter instructing EU staff to postpone "politically sensitive discussion" on the Lisbon Treaty until after the Irish referendum was leaked to No campaigners, the editors of VoteNo.ie claimed. A copy of a letter sent by Jo Leiman MEP and chair of committee on Constitutional Affairs outlines instructions to hold discussions on potentially controversial implementation plans in secret, or to halt them altogether, until after Irish voters have gone to the polls.

The letter, details of which appeared on the breakingnews.ie website, concludes: "It would therefore appear highly advisable that any document concerning the implementation of the Treaty of Lisbon which addresses politically sensitive matters be examined only when it becomes sufficiently clear that the Treaty will enter into force."
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tony,

"Victory in first round of campaign to force EU treaty referendum"
By Christopher Hope, Home Affairs Editor

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1920180/Victory-in-first-round-of-campaign-to-force-EU-treaty-referendum.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at last some good news Wink

Irish voters likely to sink EU treaty, poll shows
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/07/eu.ireland

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRELAND VOTED NO!!!

DEMOCRACY RULES!!!

BILDERBERG HAVE BEEN DEFEATED ONCE MORE!!!

THE WORLD IS SAFE YET AGAIN!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO IRELAND!
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